Xin-Shalast?


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Authors, I must know--was this an intended pun?

The Spires of Sin Shall Last

I see another in Lord Mayor Grobaras, but that one's a little weirder.

Please, no spoilers, as I'm a player.


Aesop wrote:

Authors, I must know--was this an intended pun?

The Spires of Sin Shall Last

I see another in Lord Mayor Grobaras, but that one's a little weirder.

Please, no spoilers, as I'm a player.

Interesting. On a personal note, I tend to think of X (from "Xin") as "Chi" (example: www.arXiv.org, pronounced like archive) or as a hard K sound (as in "tech", specifically, LaTeX)


Ah, but my interpretation turns "the Runelords of Sin" into the Runelords of Xin, which appears to make xenxe. :D

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Aesop wrote:

Authors, I must know--was this an intended pun?

The Spires of Sin Shall Last

I see another in Lord Mayor Grobaras, but that one's a little weirder.

Please, no spoilers, as I'm a player.

That's pretty cool... but nope.

Xin came about as a word for "city" in ancient Thassilonian, a bit of insipration, really from the use of the word "Zul" in World of Warcraft, to be honest.

Shalast is a name stolen from my home-brew campaign world, where it was the name of a very high range of mountains where the Great Old Ones had strong influences. Shalast, in this case, is Thassilonian for "wealth" or some such.

Put them together: Xin-Shalast. City of Wealth. City of Gold. Something like that. City of Greed, even. Not intended as a pun, but it's kinda neat if you think about it that way.

Wes was the one who named Grobaras. Not sure if he had an ulterior motive there or not...


unintended puns are often even better. thanks for the speedy reply. love the plot so far.


Aesop wrote:
unintended puns are often even better.

Hadn't you said it, I'd have posted the very sentiment.

Be them fitting, like here, or just funny (websites are great for that, when people don't use hyphens in their sites and Go Tahoe becomes gotahoe.com, and the Italian subsidiary of Power Gen becomes powergenetaila.com)

Oh, and I love "Sin Shall Last"!

Oh, JJ, while you're here: How do you pronounce Xin. Like Sin (or maybe Zin) or Ksin?

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KaeYoss wrote:
Oh, JJ, while you're here: How do you pronounce Xin. Like Sin (or maybe Zin) or Ksin?

We've been pronouncing Xin here like "Zin" (rhymes with sin or fin).


KaeYoss wrote:


Oh, and I love "Sin Shall Last"!

...then you'll also love this:

even though Xin means "city" and Shalast might mean "greed" (see JJ's post), forming the City of Greed, if you lisp the z like I've been implying, you're back to the Sin of Greed. Again, it all makes sense.

I think the authors have just been subconsciously channeling all along. :)

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This is officially really cool.

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