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Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r
Andante wrote:
The Lump! Brilliant! :D

Well, that's basically what he was. If I were to write down everything I ever heard him say over the course of a 6 month campaign, putting each statement on a new line, I probably wouldn't even fill one page with 12 pt. font! This is including things that he said before and after game that weren't even game related! He was like a well-dressed tumor on the side of my living room table. No sympathy.


DM Fatespinner - IK wrote:
Well, that's basically what he was. If I were to write down everything I ever heard him say over the course of a 6 month campaign, putting each statement on a new line, I probably wouldn't even fill one page with 12 pt. font! This is including things that he said before and after game that weren't even game related! He was like a well-dressed tumor on the side of my living room table. No sympathy.

Hehe, when I warned you at the start of the campaign that he's not a good gamer, I really wasn't kidding. *snicker* At least he's gone now, attaching himself to his internet girlfriend or whatever she is and staying away. :)


DM Fatespinner - IK wrote:
Oh, Sasha (and possibly Ali too) might be interested in reading this really old thread where I reveal the truth behind the last IK game that you unfortunately never got to see. I was asking the Lords of the Boards here if they had any dastardly ideas to execute my Cunning Plan(tm).

You're freakin' evil! LOL!


Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r
Andante wrote:
Hehe, when I warned you at the start of the campaign that he's not a good gamer, I really wasn't kidding. *snicker*

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I can handle people who aren't good gamers. Jared is not what I would consider a 'good gamer' but I get along with him fantastically. Lump was barely sentient. I mistook him for furniture on occassion. It's one thing to play a game poorly, it's quite another to basically not play at all.


Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r
Andante wrote:
DM Fatespinner - IK wrote:
Oh, Sasha (and possibly Ali too) might be interested in reading this really old thread where I reveal the truth behind the last IK game that you unfortunately never got to see. I was asking the Lords of the Boards here if they had any dastardly ideas to execute my Cunning Plan(tm).
You're freakin' evil! LOL!

You've never had the joy of being in one of my campaigns long enough to appreciate the machinations (of Leonardo Leonardo). Neverwinter, the Plague game, the Famaus plot... these are the epics of my legacy. Someday, I will be back in the DM's chair for our weekend games and, as long as everyone actually sticks around for it all, you'll hopefully get to witness yet another one of my masterpieces.

Did I mention how modest I am? I'm really modest. Seriously. Like the Dalai Llama.

Scarab Sages

M Native Outsider Thinker 6 / Doer 2

From the unofficial IK rpg forum on Privateer's site
"Are Bards' healing spells affected by Pain of Healing? Per the rules, there's no mention of Bards casing healing spells. This is, according to the author of that section, because the fact Bards could heal slipped his mind. It has been suggested by Privateer authors that the Bard's healing spells be modified so that they do not actually heal damage, but rather convert it from lethal to subdual. This allows a Bard to retain some ability to offer curative assistance, but also leaves true healing in the hands of divine casters - and therefore, under the domain of the Pain of Healing rules."

That would make for some hella grit. You could just do something flavor-y like, 'due to the non-divine and there fore imprecise nature of bardic healing it produces obvious scars and leaves the subject fatigued (staggered nauseated whatever) for x time'. Could also do vitality system mayhap?

Are you doing weapon groups? And if so does the bard get more since they're now proficient with all martial weapons? Do you need to take exotics to use guns or are they just their own group?

Can you even put mechanika on a chain shirt? Greatcoat?


Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r

Yeah, I always thought that the fact that bardic healing wasn't mentioned was a little weird. I think we'll do the 'converts normal damage to nonlethal' thing. You won't be subject to the pain of healing, but you won't really provide much in the way of combat healing (since the nonlethal will still knock them unconscious if they exceed their HP threshold).

Yes, I'm doing weapon groups. Firearms are in their own groups, divided into 'small arms' and 'long arms.' Anything one-handed is a 'small arm.' Two-handed guns are 'long arms.' Bards in this system would get Basic plus four groups to choose from (same as barbarian and ranger). I'm giving all the 'martial' classes a 'bonus' weapon group to make up for the addition of 2 new groups. Fighters, barbarians, rangers, and war-bards all get this bonus group. (Which means fighters get basic plus FIVE groups to choose from.) Gun Mages get the 'small arms' group for free in addition to Basic plus two others. Nyss get the 'Exotic' and 'Heavy Blades' groups for free. Iosans get 'Heavy Blades' or 'Light Blades' and 'Bows' for free.

Yes, you can put mechanika on any type of armor, but not on a greatcoat (because it's technically an 'accessory' and not armor). The type of armor limits the size of the accumulator that can be used to power it which, in turn, limits the number and intensity of the enchantments that can be placed on it. I'll have to check out the Liber Mechanika when I get home tonight for specifics.

Scarab Sages

M Native Outsider Thinker 6 / Doer 2

That being the case I think that picking up the rudiments of Alchemy would probably have been a part of the bard's Apprenticeship as well. Doc Petrok's Rejuvenator sounds like just the ticket (removes 2d8+6 subdual damage and the fatigued condition at the cost 1d3 temp dex. Fairly easy to make, DC 12). Would the Bard's cure spells count for making Alchemy that requires the cure X spells?
I like the ruling on weapon groups, by the by.
I'll see if I can get a sheet up before I have to go to work today.


Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r
Jackdaedalus wrote:
That being the case I think that picking up the rudiments of Alchemy would probably have been a part of the bard's Apprenticeship as well. Doc Petrok's Rejuvenator sounds like just the ticket (removes 2d8+6 subdual damage and the fatigued condition at the cost 1d3 temp dex. Fairly easy to make, DC 12). Would the Bard's cure spells count for making Alchemy that requires the cure X spells?

Hooray, Alchemy! Finding laboratories will require some work, but I have no problem with you having picked up such training. And yes, your bardic cure spells will count for the purposes of alchemy that requires it. Alchemy is a pretty damn handy skill to have in IK, given all the crazy stuff it can do.

Scarab Sages

M Native Outsider Thinker 6 / Doer 2

Sweetness. The rules for Alchemy say that you can get by with basic equipment and a lab merely lends a plus two. Materials will have to be purchased in city, certainly, but I imagine that field concocting would be something that he'd be trained in as well, if at all possible. I will try to get a full backstory write-up tonight as well. Are you using the Creature Lore skill?


Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r
Jackdaedalus wrote:
Sweetness. The rules for Alchemy say that you can get by with basic equipment and a lab merely lends a plus two. Materials will have to be purchased in city, certainly, but I imagine that field concocting would be something that he'd be trained in as well, if at all possible. I will try to get a full backstory write-up tonight as well. Are you using the Creature Lore skill?

Field concocting will need a few ranks of Profession (herbalist) to find various natural substances (unless you make someone else find them) but otherwise you should be okay. Yes, I will use Creature Lore.

Scarab Sages

Just as an aside, I highly reccomend ditching the "two skill check to reload" thing, where you have to make a Craft (small arms) as well as a Concentration check to reload in combat. I've run a bunch of IK games and never found it to do anything but slow down combat. IMC, I use only the Concentration check, and make it class skill in place of Craft (small arms) for those classes who need it most. I also bump up the DC by a couple because there's only one check, too.

YMMV, of course, but it helped my games, especially when a couple characters went Rifleman, Gunmage, or Pistoleer.


Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r
daysoftheking wrote:
Just as an aside, I highly reccomend ditching the "two skill check to reload" thing, where you have to make a Craft (small arms) as well as a Concentration check to reload in combat. I've run a bunch of IK games and never found it to do anything but slow down combat. IMC, I use only the Concentration check, and make it class skill in place of Craft (small arms) for those classes who need it most. I also bump up the DC by a couple because there's only one check, too.

Normally, I would agree with you but, since this is a play-by-post game, time is not going to be a big issue. A single combat can take a week or more to resolve already and all the dice rolls are happening between posts. :D

Scarab Sages

M Native Outsider Thinker 6 / Doer 2

I was more meaning buying reagents for unstable things (acids, burning powder, etc.) and mixing them on an as needed basis. I don't think this character is cool enough to consistently turn up his own ingredients. Maybe Bardic Knowledge or Creature Lore would clue him in once in a while but I wouldn't depend on it.
...If Ali wants to make an herbalist Barbarian, I wouldn't say no...Or the Nyss might I suppose.

So...give the existence of the collapsible quarterstaff (goes from 18 in. to 6 ft. as a free action) would it be terribly far-fetched to surmise the existence of a collapsible spear that could function as a short or long spear as the occasion required? I think that would be a kind of neat thing and it seems to fit with the flavor. I am aware it would probably only change on my action or something to that effect, but with the locharn and the Warcleaver in there, it doesn't seem terribly unbalanced.


Just so you know, it's fun to take personality tests as your character. ;)

Scarab Sages

M Native Outsider Thinker 6 / Doer 2
Andante wrote:
Just so you know, it's fun to take personality tests as your character. ;)

Post results?


Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r
Jackdaedalus wrote:
So...give the existence of the collapsible quarterstaff (goes from 18 in. to 6 ft. as a free action) would it be terribly far-fetched to surmise the existence of a collapsible spear that could function as a short or long spear as the occasion required? I think that would be a kind of neat thing and it seems to fit with the flavor. I am aware it would probably only change on my action or something to that effect, but with the locharn and the Warcleaver in there, it doesn't seem terribly unbalanced.

I wouldn't have a problem with it, but I would qualify it as an Exotic spear due to the additional weight involved in the collapsing mechanisms (or lack of weight when compared to a longspear, perhaps). It would function as a spear when collapsed, however, not a shortspear (since the latter can be used one-handed and thrown).

Scarab Sages

M Native Outsider Thinker 6 / Doer 2

Schweet. Planning on taking exotics anyhow.
When we were discussing Quick Draw with Trystan you said that it would apply to quickly fishing alchemical bits out mid combat. Does that still apply?


Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r
Jackdaedalus wrote:

Schweet. Planning on taking exotics anyhow.

When we were discussing Quick Draw with Trystan you said that it would apply to quickly fishing alchemical bits out mid combat. Does that still apply?

Yes. Quick Draw (as I understand it) allows you to aquire any easily accessable item on your person as a free action. Items which are hidden on your person (underneath clothing, in a boot, up your sleeve, etc.) require only a move action to draw instead of a standard action (as normal). Items stored within a backpack cannot be accessed quickly, so you would probably need to set up a 'Batman Utility Belt' for yourself to get at your most frequently-used items. Anything stashed in your backpack will take a full-round action to retrieve.

Scarab Sages

M Native Outsider Thinker 6 / Doer 2

Sweet, I'm seeing a pair of crossed bandoliers, one full of bullets for the pistol the other padded with catch flaps and little color coded vials. Do not get shot in the vitriol. Do not.


Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r
Jackdaedalus wrote:
Do not get shot in the vitriol. Do not.

Yes, avoid that. It would be... unpleasant. And probably disfiguring.


Male Human Gamer 4 / Philosopher 7
Jackdaedalus wrote:
Andante wrote:
Just so you know, it's fun to take personality tests as your character. ;)
Post results?

Claudian Galbraith:

http://typelogic.com/isfj.html

Overworked, underappreciated.

Scarab Sages

M Native Outsider Thinker 6 / Doer 2

Zack - I just emailed you the rough draft of my character but I have no email address for you except your work one. And it's Friday night. If you can still access it than gravy but if not you should email me from your home address so I can bounce it to you in the meantime.

I have consumed alcohol. Therefore I blame any typos on Chemistry. It's science's fault, not mine. So there.

Scarab Sages

M Native Outsider Thinker 6 / Doer 2

Ashleigh Thatcher:

http://typelogic.com/esfp.html

The life of the party.

...Yes, pun intended. And go to hell if you don't like it.

Scarab Sages

M Native Outsider Thinker 6 / Doer 2

Christine says,

"POST!

...love, Christine."


Zack, I sent you an email at your work addy.

I'll post a link to Sy'yll's personality profile in a second... after I get some of my work done here at the office. :(


Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r
Andante wrote:

Zack, I sent you an email at your work addy.

I'll post a link to Sy'yll's personality profile in a second... after I get some of my work done here at the office. :(

Due to various eddies in the electro-temporal matrix that makes up the internet, I imagine it will take several hours for said e-mail to reach me here. I will keep an eye out for it.


DM Fatespinner - IK wrote:
Due to various eddies in the electro-temporal matrix that makes up the internet, I imagine it will take several hours for said e-mail to reach me here. I will keep an eye out for it.

Meh, I'll just post here then... I was just contemplating why the hell the damn Nyss is wandering outside of the Nyss homeland. Obviously, certain revelations regarding her previous backstory don't make that backstory very... um... viable. So I was thinking perhaps we could incoporate said revelations into her back story. Thus, she's looking for solutions more than explanations, and isn't finding any among the Nyss.

(Sorry for being so vague folks. It's not like it's an uber-secret background that nobody must know because it contains plot destroying details---at least I don't think so *peers at Zack*---it's just Sy'yll isn't one to confide without good reason and so I'm avoiding revealing details about Sy'yll/the Nyss that your characters don't and very well won't know.)


Sy'yll Abidine

http://www.personalitypage.com/ISTJ.html


Haha, "thou shalt not post that particular info"? :P


Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r

You know, instead of incorporating the old plot into the backstory, why don't you make a new reason for her to be travelling abroad? Maybe she's in exile or something? Perhaps she disagreed with something that one of the shard leaders had said and got into a fight with him, maybe even killed him. Then she was cast out, never to return. That's just one idea, you could have others. It might be neat if the character had a 'dark secret' of some sort.


DM Fatespinner - IK wrote:
You know, instead of incorporating the old plot into the backstory, why don't you make a new reason for her to be travelling abroad? Maybe she's in exile or something? Perhaps she disagreed with something that one of the shard leaders had said and got into a fight with him, maybe even killed him. Then she was cast out, never to return. That's just one idea, you could have others. It might be neat if the character had a 'dark secret' of some sort.

Well yes, I've contemplated that. The problem is that almost everything I've come up with so far results in a completely different personality... meaning that the character is no longer Sy'yll. That's fine; I can always just make an entirely different Nyss. If I do so, is it possible to have a Nyss druid?? Then I can just tweak the druid idea I had... I think it could be an amusing character. ;)

As for actually just changing Sy'yll's past... *chuckles* I have a COUPLE ideas that might work, but, again, I should probably talk to you about them in private rather than on here... Is it safe to assume you received my email?


Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r
Andante wrote:
Is it safe to assume you received my email?

I have still not received the e-mail. The gods of fate do this to spite me from time to time.

As for Nyss druids, they certainly exist, but are far more rare than clerics of Nyssor or rangers. Any Nyss who revered nature instead of Nyssor would certainly be an outcast.


DM Fatespinner - IK wrote:

I have still not received the e-mail. The gods of fate do this to spite me from time to time.

As for Nyss druids, they certainly exist, but are far more rare than clerics of Nyssor or rangers. Any Nyss who revered nature instead of Nyssor would certainly be an outcast.

Ok, I think I have a new backhistory for Sy'yll. Dark secret and all that. Ooooooh. Only it's SECRET, so... email pending. Shall I just send it to your other addy since you likely won't get it for hours regardless of what email I send it to?


Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r
Andante wrote:
Ok, I think I have a new backhistory for Sy'yll. Dark secret and all that. Ooooooh. Only it's SECRET, so... email pending. Shall I just send it to your other addy since you likely won't get it for hours regardless of what email I send it to?

You could always take the shotgun approach and send it to all of my addresses. I'll get it for sure that way.

And no, I *STILL* haven't received the original e-mail here at work.


DM Fatespinner - IK wrote:

You could always take the shotgun approach and send it to all of my addresses. I'll get it for sure that way.

And no, I *STILL* haven't received the original e-mail here at work.

Well, I think the original email may be kinda unnecessary right now, but I suppose it couldn't hurt to have you take a look and see which idea works better. Option two gives Sy'yll a slightly different flavor. *runs off to email*


Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r

I think the e-mail server must have activated it's Smash-a-tron 4000 Personal E-Mail Obliteration Protocol (patent pending) today or something. Despite several people telling me that they have sent e-mails to me, I have yet to receive any today.


DM Fatespinner - IK wrote:
I think the e-mail server must have activated it's Smash-a-tron 4000 Personal E-Mail Obliteration Protocol (patent pending) today or something. Despite several people telling me that they have sent e-mails to me, I have yet to receive any today.

*Sympathetic pat* Well, when you get home, you'll have an email waiting from me. You'll see what I mean by giving Sy'yll a different flavor when you see it...

Scarab Sages

M Native Outsider Thinker 6 / Doer 2

Weird. Well the character sheet for Ashleigh has been sent to both your addresses now. Though I will probably rework the concept if Sasha ends up going with the Druid instead of the sorcerer. Metagame-y, I know, but dammit bards get so few spells that I want to make the ones I have worthwhile. And while it'd be fun to try to deal with having a bard/alchemist be the party healer, it would be expensive and probably fatal at some point. Dr00d would make things go more smoother like.


Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r

Bizarre. I got Ian's e-mail instantaneously here.

The Smash-a-Tron 4000 just doesn't like Sasha, methinks.

Scarab Sages

M Native Outsider Thinker 6 / Doer 2

loliwins!


Jackdaedalus wrote:
Weird. Well the character sheet for Ashleigh has been sent to both your addresses now. Though I will probably rework the concept if Sasha ends up going with the Druid instead of the sorcerer. Metagame-y, I know, but dammit bards get so few spells that I want to make the ones I have worthwhile. And while it'd be fun to try to deal with having a bard/alchemist be the party healer, it would be expensive and probably fatal at some point. Dr00d would make things go more smoother like.

Nah, I'm staying with the Sorc. I figured out that pesky background thing, methinks.


Male Athasian Elf Beguiler 4

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It's so quiet today. :(


Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r

Yeah. I'm here, though. I just haven't had anything to say. I've received Ian and Steve's character sheets, however. I will put them up in Wiki format... eventually. I'll probably get around to it whenever the other characters are finished and just do it all at once.


DM Fatespinner - IK wrote:
Yeah. I'm here, though. I just haven't had anything to say. I've received Ian and Steve's character sheets, however. I will put them up in Wiki format... eventually. I'll probably get around to it whenever the other characters are finished and just do it all at once.

If I come over early on Friday, can we work on Sy'yll's sheet then? I can't find it at home...


Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r
Andante wrote:
DM Fatespinner - IK wrote:
Yeah. I'm here, though. I just haven't had anything to say. I've received Ian and Steve's character sheets, however. I will put them up in Wiki format... eventually. I'll probably get around to it whenever the other characters are finished and just do it all at once.
If I come over early on Friday, can we work on Sy'yll's sheet then? I can't find it at home...

Sure thing. I'm also looking forward to the one-shot World of Darkness game which will probably take place sometime either this weekend or the next. It's going to be.... unique. We've got to figure out how to tell Taylor that we hate his game, though.


DM Fatespinner - IK wrote:
Sure thing. I'm also looking forward to the one-shot World of Darkness game which will probably take place sometime either this weekend or the next. It's going to be.... unique.

LOL, unique how? Cuz you've devised some crazy plot for us to play around with, or because the system is unfamiliar?

DM Fatespinner - IK wrote:
We've got to figure out how to tell Taylor that we hate his game, though.

Kekeke, we can always tell him that we'd like to run the one shot game and request his help. And if the one shot game turns out to be totally awesome, we can just keep going with it, and maybe he won't be offended that we seem to be more interested in it than in his game. And if we don't continue running with it, well... THEN we can worry about telling Taylor that we hate his game. :P Perhaps we could wait until the other World of Darkness game (the one we already created characters for) and just be like "this was planned way in advance) or something ;P


Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r
Andante wrote:
LOL, unique how? Cuz you've devised some crazy plot for us to play around with, or because the system is unfamiliar?

Both.


Omnipotent (That's right, my gender is omnipotent.) God ph34r
Andante wrote:
DM Fatespinner - IK wrote:
We've got to figure out how to tell Taylor that we hate his game, though.
Kekeke, we can always tell him that we'd like to run the one shot game and request his help. And if the one shot game turns out to be totally awesome, we can just keep going with it, and maybe he won't be offended that we seem to be more interested in it than in his game.

It sounds like a good plan initially, but... this one-shot is going to basically be designed to test the system. In order to test it adequately, I'm going to give you a fairly large pool of experience points to build your characters with just so we can explore the advanced capabilities of the different character types. Putting him into a high-powered game is kind of like shooting yourself in the foot with a poisoned harpoon. That kid's gotta be on meth or something, I swear.

I do have a really cool idea for the one-shot though.

Two words: Haunted Asylum

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