Sandpoint?


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Liberty's Edge

Just got done reading the blog about the new setting (very excited) and the starting place of the new AP. A couple questions arose.

How big of a town will Sandpoint be?

Will there be a Backdrop: Sandpoint, with the same kind of detail as in the Savage Tide AP?

How much of the new AP will be based around Sandpoint? "One of my groups favorite APs was Shackled City, due largely to the fact that they really felt like Cauldron was their home."

Really looking forward to the new AP, the new setting, and the new direction of Paizo.


I bet you it's going to be even better than anything before, since they have creative control now!!!!!!!


DedmeetDM wrote:

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Will there be a Backdrop: Sandpoint, with the same kind of detail as in the Savage Tide AP?
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Eric (I think, I've read a lot of posts today, lol) said that the backdrops will be much more in depth and expansive than before, because they have greater pagecount to work with.

Which I think can only be a good thing, right?

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Sandpoint's map has 50 numbered locations. The town itself has a population of about 1,200, if I remember right, so it's a small town.

The backdrop-type article about Sandpoint will be in greater detail than the one for Sasserine, simply because we have more room for things like that in Pathfinder. Look back at issue #124 of Dungeon at the Diamond Lake Backdrop... that's the level of detial I'm going for.

For adventure 1, pretty much the entire thing takes place in Sandpoint or in the close environs (as in, within a few hours' walk away).

Adventure 2: About 1/3 takes place in Sandpoint.

Adventure 3: The adventure starts in Sandpoint but pretty much immediately moves out into the wilderness.

Adventure 4: I'm guessing about 1/4 or 1/5 takes place in Sandpoint.

Adventure 5: Again, about 1/4 or 1/5.

Adventure 6: Not much at all in Sandpoint.

Of course... the adventures haven't yet started coming in, so I could be off. Our authors have a pretty wide range of freedom on how they finish up their adventures. But the overall goal is that, while not all the adventures take place in Sandpoint, I want it to feel like home for your PCs.

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Do we get a poster map of Sandpoint? Wizards won't do poster maps (except for battle maps) and I'm hoping Paizo will continue to provide them.

Thanks.


Charles Dunwoody wrote:

Do we get a poster map of Sandpoint? Wizards won't do poster maps (except for battle maps) and I'm hoping Paizo will continue to provide them.

Thanks.

Definately a MUST! I'd LOVE battlemaps too, though.

Contributor

By the time I'm through with Sandpoint, it will be an unhappy place to be>)

Liberty's Edge

Richard Pett wrote:
By the time I'm through with Sandpoint, it will be an unhappy place to be>)

I look forward to that!

Oh and thanks for the reply James. You all are top notch. You don't get this kind of customer service from WoTC.

Can't wait for my players to step into Varisia and Sandpoint.

Paizo Employee Creative Director

There are no plans at this point for including poster maps in Pathfinder. We aren't polybagging the book since it's not a magazine, so poster maps would have to be bound in to the book somehow. Plus... they're expensive to print and produce.

That all said, I do like me the poster maps. I've not given up on them yet!

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James Jacobs wrote:
There are no plans at this point for including poster maps in Pathfinder.

I know we're all going to be spending more now on Pathfinder [although I think we'll be getting a lot for our money] but maybe large poster maps could be available for purchase through the web site, kind of like item cards, minis, or even map packs.

Liberty's Edge

Richard Pett wrote:
By the time I'm through with Sandpoint, it will be an unhappy place to be>)

Not for me, it won't.

Grand Lodge

Richard Pett wrote:
By the time I'm through with Sandpoint, it will be an unhappy place to be>)

*cracks knuckles* Hooray!!


Richard Pett wrote:
By the time I'm through with Sandpoint, it will be an unhappy place to be>)

~laughter~ This AP is sounding even more fun than I had thought! You go, Richard!

Liberty's Edge

Sharoth wrote:
Richard Pett wrote:
By the time I'm through with Sandpoint, it will be an unhappy place to be>)
~laughter~ This AP is sounding even more fun than I had thought! You go, Richard!

Yes. I think they need a good guy, who's a werewoof. And he wears a cape, made out of a silver dragon's pelt.

That's tight.


James Jacobs wrote:

There are no plans at this point for including poster maps in Pathfinder.

....
That all said, I do like me the poster maps. I've not given up on them yet!

Poster maps, JJ. It's that or the people hunt you down and kill you and everyone else in that office. Even if it's 9.99 and we order it separately. Or a gazetteer.

May you be cursed for all eternity for not providing poster maps.

May your chair collapse beneath you causing you to slip a disc and suffer extraordinary pain at work for a year.

May your hard drives fail and your characters forever roll critical failures at crucial moments.

May your pee sting every time you urinate.

May you suffer terrible hemorrhoids annually.

And so forth...

Grand Lodge

Sharoth wrote:
Richard Pett wrote:
By the time I'm through with Sandpoint, it will be an unhappy place to be>)
~laughter~ This AP is sounding even more fun than I had thought! You go, Richard!

Y'know, we need to set up an organisation dedicated to the celebration of all things Pett. It shall be called the Society for the Advancement of Richard Pett Adventure Paths - or just SARPAP for short. We will hang out around his house, do errands and cook him meals so he will never have to step outside and can spend all his time writing adventures.

"No, officer, we are Mr. Pett's friends! Hey! Get your hands off me! Ouch!!"

Liberty's Edge

SARPAP. It has a nice ring.

Liberty's Edge

"SARPAP" could also be the elven word for Sandpoint.

HUZZAH!!!

Sovereign Court

James Jacobs wrote:


That all said, I do like me the poster maps. I've not given up on them yet!

If production costs are the problem, a downloadable version of maps could solve the problem...

As long as the main content is included in the book, I am content.

Günther

Contributor

Vattnisse wrote:
Sharoth wrote:
Richard Pett wrote:
By the time I'm through with Sandpoint, it will be an unhappy place to be>)
~laughter~ This AP is sounding even more fun than I had thought! You go, Richard!

Y'know, we need to set up an organisation dedicated to the celebration of all things Pett. It shall be called the Society for the Advancement of Richard Pett Adventure Paths - or just SARPAP for short. We will hang out around his house, do errands and cook him meals so he will never have to step outside and can spend all his time writing adventures.

"No, officer, we are Mr. Pett's friends! Hey! Get your hands off me! Ouch!!"

I Love you chaps:)

Plus having PAP at the end appeals greatly to my purile sense of humour:)

SANLAP unfortunately sounds even cooler:(

I'll ask Aly to clean out the spare room.

Huzzah!

Liberty's Edge

Vattnisse wrote:

Y'know, we need to set up an organisation dedicated to the celebration of all things Pett. It shall be called the Society for the Advancement of Richard Pett Adventure Paths - or just SARPAP for short. We will hang out around his house, do errands and cook him meals so he will never have to step outside and can spend all his time writing adventures.

"No, officer, we are Mr. Pett's friends! Hey! Get your hands off me! Ouch!!"

I believe the call that stalking now. At least thats what I got charged with the last few times I was digging in Mr. Jacobs' trash looking for game notes...ummm....I mean...uhhh...

But seriously I can't wait to see what you all do to Sandpoint...turn that sleepy little town into a wretched hive of scum and villainy. I challenge you to do your worst!! Cause I'm the DM and don't have to be a player..mwahahaha!!!!

Grand Lodge

Richard Pett wrote:

SANLAP unfortunately sounds even cooler:(

I'll ask Aly to clean out the spare room.

Huzzah!

Society Against Nicolas Logue Adventure Paths? Nah...

Contributor

Vattnisse wrote:
Richard Pett wrote:

SANLAP unfortunately sounds even cooler:(

I'll ask Aly to clean out the spare room.

Huzzah!

Society Against Nicolas Logue Adventure Paths? Nah...

Huzzah!


Count me in as wanting poster maps and battle maps, though I'll be cranky if I have to pay extra, considering how much I'm being asked to subscribe to the book in the first place.

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One idea for minimizing the extra-print cost of poster maps: Sell them as a stand-alone bundle at the end of each path. Lots of DMs wait for all of a path to be finished before running it anyway, so they don't have to wait for th next issue and so that they have everything they need (instead of improvising themselves off a cliff, so to speak).

Since it'd be 6 or more maps, the production run is slightly better, and hte bundling helps keep the prices more reasonable.

Or, since most Kinko's type shops have a poster/banner printer, in you were to include the poster map data in the PDF with the usual 'Duplicate for Personal Use' disclaimer, devoted DMs could have nice, laminated maps made for a few bucks at their local shop, as long the map isn't more than 40 inches on it's narrow side.

Dark Archive

Sarpap?

Wasn't Boba Fett eaten by the Sarpap?

j/k

Dark Archive

Would it be possible to include the larger maps (poster sized or somewht near that size) in the slipcases that are hinted in this thread?

http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/pathfinder/general/pathfinderHardcover s&page=1#183281

They would really add to the bundle value.

Contributor

Vattnisse wrote:


Society Against Nicolas Logue Adventure Paths? Nah...

:-(

;-)


James Jacobs wrote:

There are no plans at this point for including poster maps in Pathfinder. We aren't polybagging the book since it's not a magazine, so poster maps would have to be bound in to the book somehow. Plus... they're expensive to print and produce.

That all said, I do like me the poster maps. I've not given up on them yet!

I demand poster maps.

love,
The Customer.


Okay, I am looking at the BLOG map.

I am VERY aroused.

Liberty's Edge

James Jacobs wrote:
But the overall goal is that, while not all the adventures take place in Sandpoint, I want it to feel like home for your PCs.

That's the kind of thing I like to hear. I want Sandpoint to be more than the place to go back to when the PCs need to rest--I want them to have some investment in their home so that they get pissed off when woe and ruin inevitably comes to town.

Richard Pett wrote:
By the time I'm through with Sandpoint, it will be an unhappy place to be>)

You homewrecker!

golem101 wrote:
Would it be possible to include the larger maps (poster sized or somewht near that size) in the slipcases that are hinted in this thread? They would really add to the bundle value.

Actually, that's a great idea. :)


All this talk of Sandpoint makes me wonder if the designer put a rather large lake next to the town, surrounded by mountains, with a large floating bridge that crosses it at one of its narrowest points. Heh. /regional joke ;)

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Varl wrote:
All this talk of Sandpoint makes me wonder if the designer put a rather large lake next to the town, surrounded by mountains, with a large floating bridge that crosses it at one of its narrowest points. Heh. /regional joke ;)

As in the region north of Seattle being called Sandpoint?

Perhaps.

But it's FAR more likely that the author grew up in the tiny little coastal town of Point Arena on the Northern California coast. And that the translation from Spanish is roughly "Point Bar of Sand" or "Sandpoint."

The fact that there's a Sandpoint in the Seattle area is a fun little coincidence, though!

Dark Archive Contributor

James Jacobs wrote:
The fact that there's a Sandpoint in the Seattle area is a fun little coincidence, though!

Oh, see, my mind went straight to Salt Lake City, although I don't know anything about the geography of that city except it's by a lake and surrounded by mountains...

*shrug*

I'm not sure why I went there, though... I've only been to SLC a few times.


James Jacobs wrote:
As in the region north of Seattle being called Sandpoint?

No sir. Lake Pend Oreille ring a bell? It's the real Sandpoint. ;)

James Jacobs wrote:
The fact that there's a Sandpoint in the Seattle area is a fun little coincidence, though!

Idaho too.

I like it. James, did you know Dragonsfoot recently put out a free module on its site centered around a town called....wait for it....Pendleton! LOL. ;)


Mike McArtor wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
The fact that there's a Sandpoint in the Seattle area is a fun little coincidence, though!

Oh, see, my mind went straight to Salt Lake City, although I don't know anything about the geography of that city except it's by a lake and surrounded by mountains...

*shrug*

I'm not sure why I went there, though... I've only been to SLC a few times.

Mike, I think I know why you're mind went straight to SLC . . . I think that's where the gninja's have their secret hideout. But don't tell them I told you that.

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Just a question about the "flavor" of Sandpoint -

What is the town's main resource? It's coastal, so is it primarily a fishing village? Agricultural? A mix?

Or should I shut my pie-hole and wait for August like everyone else?

:P


Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path Subscriber

Nah, let's keep asking questions and make Wes sweat if he didn't think to add that to the Player's Guide. ;)

Dark Archive Contributor

William Pall wrote:

Mike, I think I know why you're mind went straight to SLC . . . I think that's where the gninja's have their secret hideout. But don't tell them I told you that.

*gasp*

OF COURSE! :D

Paizo Employee Director of Sales

Varl wrote:
James Jacobs wrote:
As in the region north of Seattle being called Sandpoint?

No sir. Lake Pend Oreille ring a bell? It's the real Sandpoint. ;)

James Jacobs wrote:
The fact that there's a Sandpoint in the Seattle area is a fun little coincidence, though!

Idaho too.

I like it. James, did you know Dragonsfoot recently put out a free module on its site centered around a town called....wait for it....Pendleton! LOL. ;)

I think of Sandpoint, Idaho, every time someone mentions it in relation to RotR.

-cos
(A native North Idahoan)

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Eyebite wrote:

Just a question about the "flavor" of Sandpoint -

What is the town's main resource? It's coastal, so is it primarily a fishing village? Agricultural? A mix?

Or should I shut my pie-hole and wait for August like everyone else?

:P

The town is coastal. It's main resources are lumber, fishing, farming (in outlying areas), and glass stuff (windows, bottles, whatever).


Pathfinder Adventure, Adventure Path Subscriber
Cosmo wrote:


I think of Sandpoint, Idaho, every time someone mentions it in relation to RotR.

-cos
(A native North Idahoan)

Me too, but mainly because I designed the Staples up there. Never been there myself.

Paizo Employee Director of Sales

Rhothaerill wrote:
Cosmo wrote:


I think of Sandpoint, Idaho, every time someone mentions it in relation to RotR.

-cos
(A native North Idahoan)

Me too, but mainly because I designed the Staples up there. Never been there myself.

So Sandpointian staples are not just |_| ?

Figures.

Spoiler:
Yeah, I know you were referring to the store, I just couldn't resist. :)

End of threadjack. Promise.

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James Jacobs wrote:


The town is coastal. It's main resources are lumber, fishing, farming (in outlying areas), and glass stuff (windows, bottles, whatever).

See, now I'm really glad I asked. The glass wares info. is very interesting.

Thanks! That really helps to set the mood of the town.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

Can't wait to feed a PC to the Sandpoint Devil!


Finally I know who or what (could) has shipwrecked the vessel the PCs used to make the way from Magnimar to Sandpoint!

Next to the Sandpoint Devil there is a stone giant training for war throwing rocks on ships in the night.

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Please tell me the Sandpoint Devil can walk upright (at least some of the time).

Paizo Employee Creative Director

Eyebite wrote:
Please tell me the Sandpoint Devil can walk upright (at least some of the time).

It absolutely can. In fact, I think that it probably does so all the time when it's not flying around.

Scarab Sages RPG Superstar 2011 Top 32

James Jacobs wrote:
Eyebite wrote:
Please tell me the Sandpoint Devil can walk upright (at least some of the time).
It absolutely can. In fact, I think that it probably does so all the time when it's not flying around.

Nice.

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