My point is that the class is flawed in its design/developement. Looking at the dvati more, I just don't think it's worth it to run one.
Not to nit-pick, but it's a race not a class.
If the Dvati are relegated to one combat round of attacks split between the twins then I agree- no one will likely ever play them. The RP fun to be had with it just wouldn't be worth the mechanical penalties. (half-hp each, if one dies they both die, etc).
If they are given one full round of combat actions each then they at least can be useful in combat as well as interesting to RP with.
Archers would be a nice way to get around the HP problem while still being relatively fun to play. Buying two bows isn't any more expensive than the typical rogue having two blades, and as long as you used the "shared magic item" idea given above and just didnt' have them wear armor so that piece never came up, it'd work out rather nicely.
A scout, ranger, or rogue archer Dvati set would work out fairly nicely in the game IMO.
Casters less so, but at least they would have some spells to help compensate for the lack of HP. (mage armors or cure spells or whatnot).
Overall their worth to the group and the campaign is largely decided on how you decide the question on how their gear and actions interact.
-S
Not to nit-pick, but it's a race not a class.
Well, excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me! :P
My brain was oatmeal yesterday on account of not enough sleep. My point still remains the same. Great idea, poor execution.
Yep. Agreed.
(about the dvati.. not your brain being oatmeal yesterday)
-S
As a player, I love the concept, but as a DM, it would give me headaches.
Does a Dvati Paladin get two horses, or do they have to both ride the same one?
If I mult-class as a Dvati, could I have one in robes using all the spells, while the other is in full plate and defending his twin?
Does a Monk Dvati get two seperate flurry of blows (massive migraine setting in), or would one start the flurry and the other end it? What if one was using weapons, while the other was bare-handed? At first it would appear that a Monk would get seperate attacks, but a Monk's abilites are all Wis-based, and thats a mental stat.
Having One mind, two bodies sounds simple at first, but there are quite a few abilites where its going to be up to the individual DM to make the call weather it's an 'intellectual' ability (scroll use) or a physical one (flurry).
If this was the ONLY player in my group, I'd consider it, but it sounds to me like I'd be spending more time adjudicating stuff for this one character then is fair to my other players.
Does a Dvati Paladin get two horses, or do they have to both ride the same one?
If I mult-class as a Dvati, could I have one in robes using all the spells, while the other is in full plate and defending his twin?
Does a Monk Dvati get two seperate flurry of blows (massive migraine setting in), or would one start the flurry and the other end it? What if one was using weapons, while the other was bare-handed? At first it would appear that a Monk would get seperate attacks, but a Monk's abilites are all Wis-based, and thats a mental stat.
Having One mind, two bodies sounds simple at first, but there are quite a few abilites where its going to be up to the individual DM to make the call weather it's an 'intellectual' ability (scroll use) or a physical one (flurry).
These are pretty easy.
Paladin gets one horse and only one body could efficiently use it at one time. Consider this a balancing mechanism for having two bodies.
Multi-class is not really relevant. Both twins are multi-classed and would be ineffective as distinct fighter (low HP and BAB) and caster (low level spells only). Additionally, both have to take the actions necessary for casting a spell, unless the non-caster is doing absolutely nothing including free actions.
Each Monk dvati twin could use flurry of blows as the dvati RAW do not discuss attack actions per twin (there's too much focus on casting). Nothing states whether attack actions are shared or independent. Thus they could seemingly both take full attack actions.
Which in the end, is the real problem.
If the twins get two separate full attack actions then they really are too powerful. (dvati rogues, i'm lookin at you).
If they are locked into just one full attack action though,t hen they are so weak as to prevent anyone from ever playing them.
Not to mention the gear issues.
(bracers of armor for A, and plate for B? or does the first effect both? If they wear different gear, then what about ability enhancements? -Oi!-)
They look fun in practice- and could even make for interesting NPC's (that never entered combat), but from the PC perspective they are just too big a pain even to figure out How to play them.
-S