Cleric / Bard Prestige (or feat..?) Options...


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I'm trying to put together a Cleric of Lydia (Greyhawk goddess of daylight, song/poetry, etc) and I'd like to multiclass into Bard and hit some sort of Prestige class (and/or just some Bard-Cleric feat options).

I can't think of any at all - which either means (a) I'm a dunce and I've missed something, or (b) there really isn't a cleric/bard prestige class out there.

Any and all input happily taken, especially in the realm of feats. I'm going to go with Sun and Knowledge for the two cleric domains, and this won't be a front-line fighting type cleric at all (more like a "longspear from the back row aid-another" cleric). The notion behind this cleric is one of guidance and knowledge - he's learned that the rest of his party were all manipulated in some major ways by some nasty baddies, and is trying to guide them back from their wounded neutral states to something a bit brighter and shinier on the alignment path - before they do all the horrible things they've been aimed toward doing.

One of the major plot archs is going to be a group of lawful good types who would prefer these other three members of the party just be taken out of the way of potential horrible future (not murder, per se, but definitely knocked to the sidelines and/or imprisoned), and the cleric is going to be a bit of a "face" for the party - the one who can try to keep the group one step ahead of the "good guys" who want to ensure the badness doesn't happen, and one step ahead of the bad guys who want to finish shaping them into something horrible.

'Divine Oracle' might be good, but again, that doesn't really meld the Cleric/Bard aspect, it just builds on one or the other.


Clerics are very hard to multiclass with roguelike classes, I have some characters from 2nd edition which are cleric/rogue and it's a real problem to convert.
For a cleric/bard you can follow the Mystic Theurge path, you will not progress in bards abilities but it'a good mix, If you want you can take the Powerful Spellcaster (that's the correct name?) feat from Complete divine and also Complete Arcane, cast spells 4 levels higher, not above you hd, in one of your classes and only for the "numerical" effects.

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What about the evangalist from complete divine. This is from memory, but I thought that class was a decent bard/cleric combo. I don't remember it being the equivalent of say, the arcane trickster or mystic theurge, but it seems like it was worthwhile.

Somewhat off-topic: One the one hand, I really like the prestige classes that let you effectively combine a spellcasting class and something else. But on the other hand, I feel like I get spoiled by them, and whenever there is a class combo not covered very well (like cleric/rogue or cleric/bard for example) the shadow cast by those mixing prestige classes tends to nix the idea.

Sebastian


Sebastian wrote:


What about the evangalist from complete divine. This is from memory, but I thought that class was a decent bard/cleric combo. I don't remember it being the equivalent of say, the arcane trickster or mystic theurge, but it seems like it was worthwhile.

Somewhat off-topic: One the one hand, I really like the prestige classes that let you effectively combine a spellcasting class and something else. But on the other hand, I feel like I get spoiled by them, and whenever there is a class combo not covered very well (like cleric/rogue or cleric/bard for example) the shadow cast by those mixing prestige classes tends to nix the idea.

Sebastian

As for a Cleric/Rogue combo, there is one out there. The Divine Seeker class from the Players Guide to Faerun is a decent combination of the two classes, though I think it may only be 5-level class. With a little work, though, there's no reason it couldn't be expanded to 10 levels. For Bard/Cleric combo, I can't think of anything other than the previously mentioned Evangelist.


Bram Blackfeather wrote:
I'm trying to put together a Cleric of Lydia (Greyhawk goddess of daylight, song/poetry, etc) and I'd like to multiclass into Bard and hit some sort of Prestige class (and/or just some Bard-Cleric feat options).

My DM came up with a PrC in our current campaign just for Bard/Clerics, the Sacred Chorister. It requires Base Will +7, bardic music class feature, ability to turn undead, ability to cast 2nd level arcane and divine spells. (I think that's all the prerequisites)

The SC gets d6, good Will, 4 base skill points, average BAB, full Bardic Music and Turning, and +1 to one spellcasting class each level. I believe class skills were Concentration, Craft, Decipher Script, Diplomacy, Heal, Knowledge (religion), Listen, Perform, Profession, Sense Motive, Speak Language, Spellcraft, and Spot

Hope this helps.

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