| Psiphyre |
This is great news!
You know, it has been very difficult to find any copies of this adventure path where I'm at (so many reasons why...). So, having them collected as a single book may be the only option I'll get!
Q: Will this compilation include the article on Nhimbaloth?
(I really hope so...)
Please & thank you.
Carry on,
--C.
RiverMesa
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Interesting!
I mean, it makes sense that AbV would be popular - as mentioned, this is a pretty natural segue from the Beginner Box (although you either need to reset your characters or make new ones, given how leveling works), it's a smaller investment as a three-parter than a full-blown six-parter, and people do love their dungeon crawls.
Cori Marie
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Interesting!
I mean, it makes sense that AbV would be popular - as mentioned, this is a pretty natural segue from the Beginner Box (although you either need to reset your characters or make new ones, given how leveling works), it's a smaller investment as a three-parter than a full-blown six-parter, and people do love their dungeon crawls.
If you lower the XP rewards based on how the encounters interact with party level, it should balance pretty quickly, and your players will feel a little more powerful on the first little bit of the Vaults before everything catches up to them.
Steel_Wind
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It's the best AP Paizo has released in many years. This treatment is a good idea.
I have little doubt that it will be regarded as one of the best, if not The Best AP for Pathfinder 2nd Ed. To characterize it as simply a "dungeon crawl" misses the mark - as well as how adaptable the adventure is in terms of its structure outside of the Ruins below Gauntlight.
| Aaron Shanks Marketing & Media Manager |
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Will the original pdf receive the balancing updates as well?
This will be the first time we've created a product like this - a compilation with no expansion and/or conversion to the latest version of the game - so I don't know yet. I would expect error corrections, but what balancing updates are you expecting?
Ron Lundeen
Developer
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Will the original pdf receive the balancing updates as well?
We have no plans to do so, no.
Further, there's not a lot of balancing to do. We're tweaking some encounters that have proven a bit problematic, but beyond "give a certain soulbound doll the phantom pain spell rather than vampiric touch," there's not a lot of dramatic changes.
That said, if you've seen other huge balance issues, please let us know!
Asgetrion
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No idea why I would buy it, since I have the 3-booklets version, but maybe as a present for someone?
Due to global shipping delays, I ended up purchasing all three parts of this AP as PDFs. I eventually received my physical copy of Ruins of Gauntlight, but it took my FLGS months to deliver, so I decided that having the last two installments as digital copies is enough.
I soon began to regret my decision, however, because I just prefer printed books over digital stuff, always (and also find them easier to read and utilize as a GM).
Then this hardcover edition was announced, and I didn't even need to think twice about whether to pre-order it or not -- even though I've already spent close to a hundred bucks on Abomination Vaults. And why not? It is not only the best 2E adventure path so far, IMO it's the best Paizo AP Paizo has published in years. It features well-designed and consistent maps, plenty of great encounters and fantastic lore, and more than a few cleverly hidden treasures and secrets for the players to discover. And, as CorvusMask said, to me it makes sense to have the whole adventure in one book. :)
Ron Lundeen
Developer
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Ron, I get that there won't be many changes, but it'd great to have a separate illustration and handout section at the end of the book -- with maybe a few extra handouts and illustrations, if I can make a modest wish! :)
We have some additional art going into this (as of right now; it's not off to the printer yet, so nothing's final!). We haven't put them into an "art section" in the back like I've seen some RPG products do; that's not our style.
| captain yesterday |
Asgetrion wrote:Ron, I get that there won't be many changes, but it'd great to have a separate illustration and handout section at the end of the book -- with maybe a few extra handouts and illustrations, if I can make a modest wish! :)We have some additional art going into this (as of right now; it's not off to the printer yet, so nothing's final!). We haven't put them into an "art section" in the back like I've seen some RPG products do; that's not our style.
I think they mean like a handout section, like Call of Cthulhu does.
Asgetrion
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Asgetrion wrote:Ron, I get that there won't be many changes, but it'd great to have a separate illustration and handout section at the end of the book -- with maybe a few extra handouts and illustrations, if I can make a modest wish! :)We have some additional art going into this (as of right now; it's not off to the printer yet, so nothing's final!). We haven't put them into an "art section" in the back like I've seen some RPG products do; that's not our style.
Thanks for your swift reply, Ron! It's fantastic that there'll (likely) be additional art in the final product.
As captain yesterday noted, I did indeed refer to Call of Cthulhu style handout section. I personally feel that it's easier to cross reference and photocopy handouts that way, but I understand why Paizo wouldn't want to do it (=additional work on the layout process, and it'd also probably increase the page count).
| Aaron Shanks Marketing & Media Manager |
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With an Anniversary Edition of an AP, Paizo has added value and content. In fact, if I am not mistaken, every hardcover compilation has also updated the Pathfinder edition, either from 3.5 to PF 1, or as in the case of Kingmaker, from PF1 to PF2. This will be the first time Paizo has compiled three virtually sold out AP volumes into one hardcover so soon. Thus, not a lot of revisions. We just want to get it printed and in the hands of players ASAP. It could be for collectors as a sentiment, but I see it mostly for new players. It is a popular seller and Otari is a well developed location. We want to make sure new players can get the whole AP experience for years to come.
Ron Lundeen
Pathfinder Development Manager
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Whew! I gave this its final approval pass on Friday, and it's off to the printer now!
There are a lot of tweaks in here. Some were just necessary for the revised layout (when a new piece of art made text on the page flow differently, for example), others are minor corrections and polishes.
We've got some new art for this, including the often-requested image of a certain ghost when she was still alive.
I want to thank everyone who weighed in on issues or fixes on these forums. I looked over lots of those and made many improvements based on those--thanks!
The hardcover is formatted a bit differently, as well. Instead of looking like three volumes between two covers, we rearranged this to have 10 sequential chapters, one for each level of the dungeon (along with a few other chapters for a campaign overview, the town of Otari, info about Nhimbaloth, the adventure toolbox, and so on).
People who aren't familiar with the three-volume nature of this AP are going to find the hardcover to be very accessible; people who already have the three volumes might prefer to have it in this more cohesive whole.
I'm proud of this, and it's going to look great!
| RicoTheBold |
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Any way that oft-requested image could be posted to the GM forum for the AP or something? It would be immediately helpful for those of us actively running the existing volumes of the campaign.
| AJCarrington |
Hardcovers are not included in the subscription. Usually, we have a deal where if you have the Adventure Path subscription, and you preorder the book, then you get the PDF. We will confirm.
Aaron - apologies if I missed this previously but can you please confirm if subscribers will be getting the PDF if we pre-order the hard cover?
| Aaron Shanks Marketing & Media Manager |
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Aaron Shanks wrote:Hardcovers are not included in the subscription. Usually, we have a deal where if you have the Adventure Path subscription, and you preorder the book, then you get the PDF. We will confirm.Aaron - apologies if I missed this previously but can you please confirm if subscribers will be getting the PDF if we pre-order the hard cover?
I have just asked. I have also asked that we create a workflow where such deals would be announced when we post the product to the store, in the future. Thanks!
Ron Lundeen
Pathfinder Development Manager
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Guess Mr. Beak with phantom pain is now a thing officially :O (if I run this campaign again though, I'm going to stick with Mr. Break with worm's repast because I love foreshadowing that spell going to show up later at use of Mr. Break's creator x'D)
That's an excellent substitution as well!