Dale McCoy Jr President, Jon Brazer Enterprises |
David knott 242 |
I just noticed an interesting issue with one of the bonus spells for the Fitness mystery. The spell granted at 14th level is called "Curse of Ineptitude", but I cannot find that spell anywhere. It has no superscript after it, which would imply that the spell is either in the Core Rulebook or this PDF -- but it is in neither place. The d20pfsrd.com version of this mystery lists this spell but has no link to it -- and in fact the only "Curse of Ineptitude" spell they have anywhere on their site is a spell of too low a level by another company altogether. The descriptions of other "Book of the Faithful" products make no mention of containing new spells.
So -- where is this "Curse of Ineptitude" spell?
Dale McCoy Jr President, Jon Brazer Enterprises |
I just noticed an interesting issue with one of the bonus spells for the Fitness mystery. The spell granted at 14th level is called "Curse of Ineptitude", but I cannot find that spell anywhere. ...
So -- where is this "Curse of Ineptitude" spell?
Hmmm. It would seem I dropped the balk on this one. I'll figure this out and post an update when I do.
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Healthy Moves (Ex): Your base speed increases by 10 feet. At 5th level, you receive Dodge as a bonus feat. At 10th level you receive Mobility as a bonus feat. You do not need to meet the prerequisites to receive these feats.
edit:unless thats been changed of course.
Wouldn't they just offset? Expending a whole revelation choice for no penalty at 1st level, and then bonus feats at 5th and 10th level? I mean, maybe, but it's really debatable, which always seems to be the usual clue it's a good option - if it sounds nice, but when you look at it you end up really debating it next to every other choice. It's not a no-brainer, so I wouldn't call it broken or anything.
Dale McCoy Jr President, Jon Brazer Enterprises |
Healthy Moves (Ex): Your base speed increases by 10 feet. At 5th level, you receive Dodge as a bonus feat. At 10th level you receive Mobility as a bonus feat. You do not need to meet the prerequisites to receive these feats.
edit:unless thats been changed of course.
Ahh right. I remember looking at this exact situation and going back and forth on whether this is balanced or not. Ultimately I decided that it is still balanced because you are using a revelation to negate the speed loss. You could otherwise choose a +1 natural armor bonus, a sacred/profane bonus to your CMB, the ability to slow your enemy's movement, a climb speed and so forth, but instead you are bringing yourself up to the normal movement speed for the race. Flavor-wise, you are House MD who limped for a long time and managed to get full use of his leg back (before the network made him be a cripple again). You are a paragon of health and should be able to overcome physical limitations like a lame leg that would otherwise slow you down.
Having said all that, I could see a GM not allowing this revelation with the lame curse.
christos gurd |
I didn't think it was too much of problem unless your gm is very against rage cycling, for which this will make the oracle dip more palatable. I only brought it up because of similar abilities in other mysteries having the whole "this revelation may not be chosen by an oracle with the lame curse" bit. I will say that doing that curse revelation combo basically nets you 2 revelations worth of abilities at the cost of one(the no fatigue revelation) and you are losing a penalty you would normally have as well. Not overly problematic in and of itself though.
Dale McCoy Jr President, Jon Brazer Enterprises |
So after a not-completely exhaustive search for the curse of ineptitude, I have found ... nothing.
I have checked every spell book and source book that I would have used and many that I did not believe I would have used but checked anyways and came up with zilch. My best guess is that it was a spell I was writing at the time and kept modifying it over and over again until there is nothing left of the original spell and forgot to change it in this PDF (more likely) or that I found it in an OGL source book so obscure that I cannot find it now (far less likely).
So short of the long, I will either create a new spell for this slot or I will find a spell to replace it with. It may take a week or two, but it will be done.
Sorry about this.
David knott 242 |
christos gurd wrote:Healthy Moves (Ex): Your base speed increases by 10 feet. At 5th level, you receive Dodge as a bonus feat. At 10th level you receive Mobility as a bonus feat. You do not need to meet the prerequisites to receive these feats.
edit:unless thats been changed of course.Ahh right. I remember looking at this exact situation and going back and forth on whether this is balanced or not. Ultimately I decided that it is still balanced because you are using a revelation to negate the speed loss. You could otherwise choose a +1 natural armor bonus, a sacred/profane bonus to your CMB, the ability to slow your enemy's movement, a climb speed and so forth, but instead you are bringing yourself up to the normal movement speed for the race. Flavor-wise, you are House MD who limped for a long time and managed to get full use of his leg back (before the network made him be a cripple again). You are a paragon of health and should be able to overcome physical limitations like a lame leg that would otherwise slow you down.
Having said all that, I could see a GM not allowing this revelation with the lame curse.
The main argument I could see for not allowing an Oracle with the Lame curse to take that revelation is the very similar Cinder Dance revelation of the Flame mystery:
Cinder Dance (Ex): Your base speed increases by 10 feet. At 5th level, you receive Nimble Moves as a bonus feat. At 10th level, you receive Acrobatic Steps as a bonus feat. You do not need to meet the prerequisites to receive these feats. Oracles with the lame oracle curse cannot select this revelation.
Dale McCoy Jr President, Jon Brazer Enterprises |
After some further research, I discovered that 101 7th Level spells by Rite Publishing does have a Curse of Ineptitude spell of the right level.
*Sigh* I swear I looked there. Yes, David is correct. Curse of ineptitude from Rite Publishing's 1001 Spells is the spell I was thinking of. Thank you for finding it. I'll update this soon.
Dale McCoy Jr President, Jon Brazer Enterprises |
The main argument I could see for not allowing an Oracle with the Lame curse to take that revelation is the very similar Cinder Dance revelation of the Flame mystery:
PRD wrote:Cinder Dance (Ex): Your base speed increases by 10 feet. At 5th level, you receive Nimble Moves as a bonus feat. At 10th level, you receive Acrobatic Steps as a bonus feat. You do not need to meet the prerequisites to receive these feats. Oracles with the lame oracle curse cannot select this revelation.
Like I said, if a GM doesn't want to allow it, I can see that. But I personally feel that being blessed by a deity with physical fitness can overcome that handicap and bring the person back to where they should otherwise be for the race.
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