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"Cards Do What They Say. Read any card as it is encountered or played,
and do what it says as soon as it makes sense. Let the card tell you what
to do, and don’t impose limitations that aren’t there." I think this rule pretty much solves it. I'm going to apply the damage reduction to structural damage unless stated officially that it wasn't the intent. Thanks guys :)

That's a really good point Nefrubyr. I was reading it that way, but not quoting it that way.

Consider this: they depend on the rule I (and the OP) quoted above to keep them from having to print "this card cannot reduce structural damage" on every card that can reduce any kind of damage a player might take.

While possibly true, the cards would simply just need to be have an errata to say player damage instead of plain damage to work out that way.

ryvi wrote:

Theryon Stormrune wrote:

ryvi wrote:

Can the damage prevention from frostbite reduce structural damage from a monster that I used it against in combat? The card simply says it reduces the "Damage" by one from a monster with no specific damage type. In the rulebook it says that Structural damage cannot be reduced by cards that reduce damage to players, but this seems to be to prevent characters from wearing armor for a ship to me. Is there a definition of "Player damage" that can apply to the Frostbite's damage reduction since it does not say combat or any other flavor of damage that normally would be considered damage to a player?

I'd say no. Frostbite does not and cannot prevent structural damage to a ship. Only damage to a player.

Can you outline an argument as to why you think this or is this just an opinion? The rules don't clarify that structural damage can only be reduced by cards that say "Reduce structural damage" only that cards that reduce damage to a player will not reduce structural damage. The problem is that the damage on Frostbite is not specific. I'd like rules clarifications for when this pops up again.

The part of your statement that I emphasized is the argument you are looking for. :)

"While displayed, damage dealt by that monster is reduced by one." The card is not clear as to the limits of its damage reduction. The argument does not apply since it does not specify where the damage goes and what type of damage it is. The card is probably worded poorly to save space in the text box, but I'd like to know if the intent of cards that reduce untyped damage is meant to be usable for Structural damage or if we define that as preventing damage to players.

ryvi wrote:

Can the damage prevention from frostbite reduce structural damage from a monster that I used it against in combat? The card simply says it reduces the "Damage" by one from a monster with no specific damage type. In the rulebook it says that Structural damage cannot be reduced by cards that reduce damage to players, but this seems to be to prevent characters from wearing armor for a ship to me. Is there a definition of "Player damage" that can apply to the Frostbite's damage reduction since it does not say combat or any other flavor of damage that normally would be considered damage to a player?

I'd say no. Frostbite does not and cannot prevent structural damage to a ship. Only damage to a player.

Can you outline an argument as to why you think this or is this just an opinion? The rules don't clarify that structural damage can only be reduced by cards that say "Reduce structural damage" only that cards that reduce damage to a player will not reduce structural damage. The problem is that the damage on Frostbite is not specific. I'd like rules clarifications for when this pops up again.

Can the damage prevention from frostbite reduce structural damage from a monster that I used it against in combat? The card simply says it reduces the "Damage" by one from a monster with no specific damage type. In the rulebook it says that Structural damage cannot be reduced by cards that reduce damage to players, but this seems to be to prevent characters from wearing armor for a ship to me. Is there a definition of "Player damage" that can apply to the Frostbite's damage reduction since it does not say combat or any other flavor of damage that normally would be considered damage to a player?