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"requirements that apply

text that doesn't apply
text starts applying again."

But that is not the way it's written. It is this:

1) Text that describes a unique full attack action granted by the feat.
2) Restrictions to that unique full attack action.
3) A way in which the feat modifies the trick attack full action.

There in no text after the clause relating to trick attack. When you use trick attack you are by definition not using the full attack action granted by Spring Attack, you are using the trick attack full action.

Having said that, to me the text is inconclusive; it could be reasonably interpreted either way.

We need a FAQ entry to clarify.


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"Why wouldn't the prohibition apply?"

Because there are two distinct uses, and the prohibitions are only stated for the first one.


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The text can reasonably be interpreted multiple ways and the impact to gameplay is significant. We need a FAQ entry.

My interpretation is that the Spring Attack feat grants two benefits:

1) As a full action, you can move up to your speed and make a single melee attack or combat maneuver without provoking any attacks of opportunity from the target of your attack. You can move both before and after the attack, but you must move at least 10 feet before the attack, and the total distance that you move cannot be greater than your speed. You cannot use this ability to attack a foe that is adjacent to you at the start of your turn.

2) If you have the trick attack class feature, you can take your movement from trick attack at any time during a trick attack with a melee weapon (instead of only before), without provoking any attacks of opportunity from the target of your attack.

The limitations placed on the special full action granted by Spring Attack are not applied when you use trick attack because you are not using the special full attack action granted by Spring Attack.

"You can take your movement from trick attack at any time during a trick attack" means that you can move, take your attack, and move again. If it meant "before or after" it would have been better to simply say "before or after".

However, I also see your points. There is definitely room for argument.


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I love the convenience of flip-mats, especially ones like this of outdoor areas that are often difficult to sketch.

Given that, I often find that I need a larger area than a single map can encompass. I would like to see maps like this with the two sides able to connect together to form a single larger map. I would buy two of many maps if they had this feature.

Even better would be two flip-mats with each side able to connect to one side of the other map. For example, two maps each with one side of forest that connects to other map's forest side and one side of desert that connects to the other map's desert side. This would allow larger areas to be represented without having to buy two copies of the same map. Similarly, maps of buildings where different floors are represented on each side could instead be two maps with one floor of the building on one side and something else on the other side. This would eliminate the necessity to buy two of the same building map to accommodate party members being on both floors simultaneously.