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Glad to see this project is going to be brought to completion - I like the flavor of it quite a lot and Fax had a great start to it.

Warspeaker, I would say, is better than Knight-Scholar, simply because Knight-Scholar doesn't really have any... it doesn't sound like a class to me, it more sounds like a description of someone. Like say, something that would be said of Saladin or something.

I did playtest this material as a martial focused Advocate (heading to rhetorical blade) for about five to six levels in the Skull and Shackles AP. I found that one issue I had was that I had almost no way to realistically meet the cadences even with an intelligence score of 20. My Tzocatl check bonus was never enough to have any feel that my edicts would ever get improved - it was my assumption that they would just provide the base effect, which is alright, but quickly was falling off. I'm not sure really how to fix this, but I feel that there's something to be said for a little bit more predictability when it comes to using your edicts and improving them - especially with the rules saying that you have to choose which cadences to use before you roll your tzocatl check. I really wanted to light tzocatl, but had a lot of trouble to do that. Often times, I simply felt like a worse fighter that could cast worse spells than if I had been, say, an inquisitor or bard or other d8 class. Not that the Advocate has to match that same balance level, of course. Just an example of how I felt constrained by the checks and rules.

I really wish I could offer some concrete suggestion, but basically all I have was that experience.


Seginus wrote:
proletarii wrote:
Considered any Prestige Classes? Paizo's not much a fan of them, but some of us really miss them.

I've considered them, but not entirely sold on adding them. The book is already shaping up to have a HUGE amount of content, especially with the archivist and rune magic.

I have had some ideas floating around, like a melee-equivalent to the Arcane Archer would be simple, or an item creation focused class like an Artificer. Another idea would be a character that magically animates weapons, and some prestige classes to work with rune magic would be appropriate. But I don't know if I'll have the time and budget for it (since each class needs another art piece to go with it).

I may make it a stretch goal for the book on Kickstarter if enough people seem interested.

Stretch goal sounds plenty fair to me - I look forward to it. I know prestige classes aren't everyone's cup of tea. All the same, I'll be backing this book. Path of Shadows was excellent.


Considered any Prestige Classes? Paizo's not much a fan of them, but some of us really miss them.


Is there anywhere we can follow your work, other than keeping an eye on this forum? I really enjoyed Path of Shadows and I'm looking forward to whatever you come up with next.


Is there any way to get in on this for those of us that missed the Kickstarter?