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Sorry i should have stated, I want raw because I want to use it in PFS


So, the assumption of knowledge checks for like monsters, or seeing a symbol is that you have to see said monster or symbol.

But by raw... can you hear a monster growl or have a symbol described to you and make a knowledge check on it?


Jeremy Mac Donald wrote:
ancientsensei wrote:

If you cast ray of frost with a weapon in one hand, and you threaten the character you are casting the spell, you can sneak attack while flanking them. They are still dividing their attentions, still threatened and still flanked. Andy Collins might disagree with me on this, but I've learned not to wait on him. He's too busy answering things like:

Q My DM tells me to sheath a weapon provokes an attack of opportunity. Where does he get that from?

A The Player's Handbook.

So, if you want some, ahem, sage advice (note I did not capitalize those), I think you can sneak attack any time her target would be denied a Dexterity bonus to AC...or when the rogue flanks her target.

Doesn't say anything about having to be a melee attack. This opens up new possibilities for strategy maybe. Have to look into that.

By the way, I should have mentioned thatmy second post was inaccurate. Apparently you can sneak attack with enervation, since hit points are lost with the negative levels. I don't like that much (as I think it's hp loss instead of damage), but it is listed as an example.

Still a big no on ray of enfeeblement, though.

I think your getting Threatening and Flanking confused.

SRD wrote:

Flanking

When making a melee attack, you get a +2 flanking bonus if your opponent is threatened by a character or creature friendly to you on the opponent’s opposite border or opposite corner.

So you can't meet the criteria to do a flank attack unless you use a melee weapon. Wand of Ray of Frost does ranged touch attacks and does not qualify as a melee weapon. If you had a short sword in your hand as well this would not allow you to make a flank attack with the wand, holding a melee weapon does not turn ranged touch attacks into melee attacks.

Where holding the melee weapon would help is for your ally on the other side since you threaten the bad guy in the middle just by virtue of the fact that your holding the melee weapon -...

lol....................... sorry bro, if u look up initiative you can deny them their dex bonus by being before them in initiative as well. Denying dex bonus is not dependent on flanking, but can be caused by flanking. In fact, there is like 1000 feats when sneak attacking with ranged weapons