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I also would like to question the -2 at the start of your turn. I understand that once you cleave you take the -2 but why would you take it while you are moving into position? Once you are in position I agree that you leave yourself vulnerable but before you get there you don't. Again just my view on the topic.

I total understand what everyone is saying and I don't disagree with all of it. The point I wanted to make was that the wording in the book does not coincide with intent of James. When choosing feats you go by what the books says not by what the intent was. I totally accept the decision made of course. I also appreciate every ones input.

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2ksca&page=8?Declaring-Cleave#393 . This Is James Jacobs response to the cleave question. I still believe that the way it is worded is contradictory to his statement here. That being said he is the writer so I guess we have to go with that. I don't know how to source so I apologize.

Sorry I didn't know that the source word brought me to a post. A friend just explained that to me.

Also the word CAN does make it an option. If it wasn't an option it would state " have to" or "must". The wording for power attack says you have to announce it at the start of your turn cleave does not

What thread is that official response from or are you from Paizo. Not being rude just curious so I can find it.

What does that have to do with the original post?

It states that your single attack at your full bab is the standard action not cleave. It states that if you hit you CAN make another attack

I know this has been brought up before but I disagree with many people's opinions. The feat clearly states that the standard action is a single attack at full bab. It does not say cleave is your standard action. It also states that " if you hit you do normal damage and CAN make an additional attack against an adjacent foe within reach. The word can makes it an option at that point so you do not have to declare at the start of your turn. This is all basic English learned through out grade school and high school. I would like to hear from any Paizo team member on this topic.

It does not state that cleave is a standard action. It states that cleave can only be done if you use a standard action to attack. It also does not state that you have to declare cleave at the start of your turn.