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If the spellbook did get damaged by being soaked in water, why wouldn't a mending spell fix it?

1)Because cantrip can't produce complex information from nothing.

2)"All of the pieces of an object must be present for this spell to function."

How about dissolved ink that is gone with water, evaporated, etc.

3)"This spell has no effect on objects that have been warped or otherwise transmuted, but it can still repair damage done to such items"

You can repair a book, but not restore writings warped by water.

d-reason wrote:

Okay. I've got this link after my new player's arcanist was literally drowing in water during adventure, for quite decent amount of time, and then dragged to safety by comrades. I got really few things to say, after I read whole thread:

Waterproof bag 5sp
Book Ward spell (level 2 sorcerer/wizard spell)

Be honest with yourself, and start to play character with 18+ Intelligence accordingly.

Prestidigitation will dry the pages, but writings will be lost, as inks are delicate, and focusing diagrams needs to be perfect. So remember the scout song and "Be prepared!".

P.S. When I play a witch, I buy spellbook. Why? Because I ask NPC wizards to copy some of my spells there for some fee. So later, in case my familiar die and ressurection is not an option, new familiar can be taught some of rare spells from my previous reperoir with scheme: show spellbook to wizard>>ask him make scrolls>>feed them to new familiar. Witch has 18+ Intelligence. She is smart enough to do such precaution, as 2 spells per level for brand new familiar is ridiculos.

A lot of items are "flavor" items. You still have not produced any specific rules that say how water affects a spell book. Does it need to soaked? Does it only take being in the rain for 3 seconds? etc etc

I agree that if the book is submerged for a long time it makes sense that it should be damaged to some extent, but I won't pretend like I have seen rules for it when I have not. If rules have come out then quote them. Even if there are new rules out, I doubt there were any when this thread was made.

I have Book Ward spell in front of me. And I think of Cicero. Why so? Because "existance of an exception is proving that there is a rule for which this exception was made."

Cicero used that as defining argument in court. And he won.

This spell specifies that it is making object immune to acid and fire(as via protection from energy) and making it waterproof. We know what particular book developers had in mind when they were making that spell, or we should pretend for the sake of players?
So it seems like that spellbooks are vulnerable to acid(dissolving paper in seconds),fire(paper burns, wow) and water (ink is screwed).

I have no reason to pretend that spellbook is waterproof, when there are spells that are designed to protect it.

There is item called Blessed Book. It is specificly mentioning that it is waterproof and durable. Why say that, if all spellbooks are like that?

Exception that proves that original rule of spellbooks being vulnerable to water exists. Period. Precedent of this argument is thousands years old. Just trust Cicero and Romans, they knew their stuff.

Okay. I've got this link after my new player's arcanist was literally drowing in water during adventure, for quite decent amount of time, and then dragged to safety by comrades. I got really few things to say, after I read whole thread:

Waterproof bag 5sp
Book Ward spell (level 2 sorcerer/wizard spell)

Be honest with yourself, and start to play character with 18+ Intelligence accordingly.

Prestidigitation will dry the pages, but writings will be lost, as inks are delicate, and focusing diagrams needs to be perfect. So remember the scout song and "Be prepared!".

P.S. When I play a witch, I buy spellbook. Why? Because I ask NPC wizards to copy some of my spells there for some fee. So later, in case my familiar die and ressurection is not an option, new familiar can be taught some of rare spells from my previous reperoir with scheme: show spellbook to wizard>>ask him make scrolls>>feed them to new familiar. Witch has 18+ Intelligence. She is smart enough to do such precaution, as 2 spells per level for brand new familiar is ridiculos.