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I was thinking it made sense for any single-target spell attack (as in, vs AC, not a save) to be allowed as a "strike" for these purposes. Since a single-target spell attack functions essentially the same as a strike from bow and arrow.


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I've got a party of 4 going into the AV campaign but the problem is that they are already level 3. They played Menace Under Otari (the Beginner's Box) and they just got done clearing the fishing camp in Troubles in Otari. So now they are very over-leveled for AV. Should I modify the first dungeon (the surface-level keep) to account for their higher level (maybe add more creatures to each encounter)? Or should I just leave it alone? Also, should I keep giving them XP (though in much smaller amounts)? Or should I just stop giving XP until they reach the third floor? That sounds less fun to me, like I'm denying them rewards, so I'm hesitant to do that. Any help from veteran GMs is appreciated.


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Captain Morgan wrote:
The Gleeful Grognard wrote:

Print a small map onto paper. Use a vinyl battle map and sketch out whatever room they are in on it. Erase it when you are done.

Easy.

Other than that, printing the whole map and gluing it together works (but the maps are big) as does the tv table approach (but that depends on your budget)

Don't go the short throw projector route, it is not as good as making a tv table and almost as expensive while being more fiddly.

Yeah, I'd just use the vinyl room by room.

Now, I no someone built 3D maps for Abomination Vaults, but that was just for a podcast, not for general purchase, right? Because that would probably be the best possible thing for your group of mini lovers.

I mean, that would probably run into the hundreds of dollars. I'd pay $100 for all the AV maps. Not sure I could justify more for 1 adventure path..............okay maybe $200. But yeah that would be amazing.


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The Gleeful Grognard wrote:
Don't go the short throw projector route, it is not as good as making a tv table and almost as expensive while being more fiddly.

Damn, alright. Was hoping that was a legit option. Oh well.


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Claxon wrote:
I think a lot of people have gone another direction, using services like Foundry's Virtual Tabletop which will let you import map files and use them, along with building your characters and helping manage things.

Which if a projector works well, I could do that. Or, like I said, pay a thousand dollars for someone to make me a TV table :p


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breithauptclan wrote:
I print out each map on a single sheet of paper, tack it to a corkboard, and use push pins for player and monster characters.

I apprieciate the minimalism but that's definitely not going to work for my group. They LOVE to make and buy figures on Heroforge. The accessories are almost as much fun as the game for them (it's a bunch of girls and my wife). So the better it looks, the more likely it will be to useful.

So I guess no one has used a projector?


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That does look cool for people who are artistically inclined, but I'm just not going to do that. Maybe if the dungeon could be printed onto those sheets, but even then, they lack color.

So far, the best options seem to be printing dozens of 8 1/2 x 11s and taping them together...or a projector. If I thought I could actually build a TV table, I would, but I'm just not that handy, either.


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So I'm gearing up to run Abomination Vaults, and I seriously don't know how GMs handle large maps. I've printed small maps on multiple 8 1/2" x 11" sheets of paper and taped them together, but is that even feasible for something AV? I've read online that people have used cloth-printing services, which sounds kind of cool but I dread what happens when the measurements go wrong or the printing itself sucks. I've also thought about rigging a projector above the table using some sort of overhanging metal arm or even drilling a rig into the ceiling. None of these options sound like a silver bullet and I'm just wondering what other GMs do. I know I can literally draw the maps myself, but I have neither the time nor the desire to do that. I've bought every flip-mat that Paizo has produced but that's often less than half of what's needed for even small adventure paths. I'm at a loss.


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Awesome, yeah I was guessing Abomination Vaults as well. Good to have confirmation on that. Thanks!


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Just played with the 4x4 one last night. Works great for me.


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Okay everyone, I'm unveiling this masterpiece!

Single Player Sheet

2x2 Sheet for a 4 Person Party

If there's a better way to upload these image files somewhere (maybe for better resolution), I'm all ears. Both images are scaled to fit 8 1/2 x 11 paper.