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Alright everybody thanks for all the responses. It's difficult sometimes because I've read through a lot of the rules and have a good foundational understanding of how most basic things work, but this was so far out of left field that I couldn't immediately produce a rule to reference. Will point him to this thread!

I know that we are not supposed to consider any doubt a dummy doubt... but, REALLY??? What kind of master is that?

Just wanted to address this specifically... our DM is by no means dumb. I just think that he's fairly new to DMing and he's got a whole lot going on on his side of the table so sometimes stuff just gets mixed up. We as players definitely mix up dumb crap as well, heh. Thanks for the reply though, appreciate the info!

Just looking for a quick clarification on spell casting and ranged touch attacks. I play with a group of new players (myself included). At our last session my 3rd level bard wanted to cast Hideous Laughter and the DM called for a ranged touch attack to determine if the spell hit the target. I said I was pretty sure that ranged touch attacks only apply to spells like rays which specifically call for them, but our DM insisted that, no, they apply to all targeted (i.e., non-AoE) spells. When I continued to question his interpretation of the rules, I was told that until I could show him the rule that said spells do not specifically require a ranged touch attack, that was how it was going to go.

Despite searching for something which states concretely that spells which do not specifically call for a ranged touch attack do not need one, I actually haven't been able to find anything. If anybody could point me in the right direction I'd really appreciate it. If we go ahead with the DM's interpretation of the rules it just seems that spells become far less useful because unlike normal weapon attacks they must pass TWO checks: first the ranged touch attack, then the save.

Thanks for your time.