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Diego Rossi wrote:


Your GM only needs to read the Bestiary I to see that.

The problem he has with this is he feels the tools in the bestiary are for “making custom monsters” and thus is for gm’s only, its

Just so frustrating to have this stated in thread after thread and coming to this conclusion myself but as there isnt a 7 word line in the spell saying (apply the template to the target corpse) that templates arent being used here since it isnt explicitly stated that it isnt and i feel so defeated trying to convince him otherwise as it will take nothing short of the holy word from paizo itself to shift him, i could get 100 people in here all saying the same thing and he will most likely still disregard it


Okay finally figured out i need to go into the post to see when people reply. This is my first post on the forums and admittedly i made this account just for this. He argues that putting the skeleton or zombie template on the corpse you touch is “creating a custom monster” and the rules in the bestiary about creating skeletons and zombies are tools for gm’s only and players have no authority to be doing any of that, “creating skeletons and zombies” to him in going into the bestiary and using the skeleton and zombie present in there,

This was a like solid 2 hours of arguing about 8 hours ago at this point so im trying to recall the key points he was making,

Another big talking point he had for his stance was comparing it to create undead, which has no bearing on how animate dead should function imo. And getting extremely caught up in the flavor text of create undead saying “a more potent version” and being able to make an upwards of 20hd creatures would make the spell too powerful or more so than create undead which he says clearly isnt the point of animate dead a 3rd level spell being more effective than a 6th


I have a gm who is stubborn has hell about the interpretation of the animate dead spell, hes assuming u get a human skeleton forever and always and I desperately need a person with decent authority to come in here and lay down the rules forever and always on how this works so i can die peacefully