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Yeah, it's not a well thought out spell, lol.

Void was to consider using in the Emerald Spire (level 11) that has a evil cleric with evil and void domains. I only put the domain description for easy context (not everyone wants to follow links, or create them)

Call the Void seems to have the flavor I was looking for, but wanted a ranged effect. I guess that doesn't need to have a thrown mechanic.
And it being an intangible energy, I thought a will save better than reflex. It's effecting the person's being more than their body

I appreciate the input. I'll probably steer away from spell creation, lol


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Greetings All!

So, we finally are about to reach level 12.. My first question: How is there a gelatinous cube still there? They are supposed to die off after 6 months on no 'food'.

Even with the oddness of the dungeons, this seems an out of place location to find a cube. Sure, its a fun way to start, but why/how is it there???


I've never created a spell before, only tweaked a couple details. But, I was thinking about something involving the Void Domain

Void Domain:
You can call upon the cold darkness between the stars to gain flight, travel to other worlds, or summon monsters from beyond to do your bidding

So I was thinking of a splash attack spell

Echo of the Void (Evil, Void) Level 4?
Close range 25' + 5'/2 Lvl
Components: V

Conjure a small sphere of dark nothingness and toss at opponents

20' burst/splash d4 + wisdom modifier/caster level of void energy dmg
SR Will Save (since its just energy)

I literally just whipped this up and I have no idea of balance. Does this have merit?

Any and all input is welcome. I'm looking for something different that'll make my players use a bit more caution, but not overpowered.

Thank You all in advance!


I don't want it to be over powered, but significant enough to make my players concerned


I've never created a spell before, only tweaked a couple details. But, I was thinking about something involving the Void Domain

Void Domain:
You can call upon the cold darkness between the stars to gain flight, travel to other worlds, or summon monsters from beyond to do your bidding

So I was thinking of a splash attack spell

Echo of the Void (Evil, Void) Level 4?
Close range 25' + 5'/2 Lvl
Components: V

Conjure a small sphere of dark nothingness and toss at opponents

20' burst/splash d4 + wisdom modifier/caster level of void energy dmg
SR Will Save (since its just energy)

I literally just whipped this up and I have no idea of balance. Does this have merit?

Any and all input is welcome. Ideally, I'd like to use it in a game this Saturday March 4th, but I won't hold my breath, lol.

Thank You all in advance!


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...............And... my group managed to get past level 8 without going through the level. Somehow they saved *just* enough to get past the 'fountain' and down the stairs

A bunch of prep for nothing, lol


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So... I reread the section telling about the tunnel.

Apparently, I read it once and never looked again. It does state:

"The passageway winds down for miles until it reaches the Darklands near
Harrowspire"

I've bounced around so many places I forgot where I found what.

So now we know, lol


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PFRPGrognard wrote:
Tosscobobble wrote:
Today is a good day to... halp wrote:
Mosswater is also mentioned in the Thornkeep sourcebook- if I recall correctly, they're a bunch of Halfling ranchers living there? It's been a few years since I've read either.
Thornkeep Sourcebook? I missed that... Thank you!

Yes, the Thornkeep Sourcebook has more information on the area. Mind you, they are short blurbs or a page worth of information on the surrounding areas, but it is enough for creative GMs to fill in the blanks.

Tunnel to the Darklands? Ok. Grab that issue 82 of Dungeon magazine with that underworld adventure that you've always wanted to run and place it at the end of said tunnel.

It gives GMs the freedom to be creative.

I figured, since I couldn't find anything, that it was left open. But, I was just wondering if there was *anything* written for it.

Thank you all!


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Today is a good day to... halp wrote:
Mosswater is also mentioned in the Thornkeep sourcebook- if I recall correctly, they're a bunch of Halfling ranchers living there? It's been a few years since I've read either.

Thornkeep Sourcebook? I missed that... Thank you!


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Tosscobobble wrote:
Today is a good day to... halp wrote:
Tosscobobble wrote:

While I appreciate some of the openness (lack of details) of the lore, I am surprised that there isn't more info about published things.

Here's a tunnel leading into the Darklands..... Great. To where?
Here's a town with a peculiar background, but figure out the details on your own

It's not like I'm talking about new stuff....this area was published years ago and abandoned it seems

This town, you mentioned, was it called Thornkeep? It has it's own dungeon system too- so mebbe that tunnel connects to the Emerald Spire one?

Just as an fyi, both Thornkeep and the Emerald Spire were started as Kickstarter projects to help the defunct Pathfinder Online MMO get off the ground. ;)

PS. Or you could always bring in other adventures, towns, and settings [3pp or 1pp] to help fill in the gaps and make it your own unique thing. ;)

My group completely bypassed everything else in the area. We were Level 10 by the time I found this module...I've been modifying all the baddies to not be a complete cakewalk, lol

I was referring to Mosswater.. It has some info, but nothing solid (unless I missed something)
The tunnel from Level 8 states it connects to level 13, but also splits off into the Darklands. Granted, its a sandbox idea, but I was curious if there was supposed to be anything specific attached.


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Today is a good day to... halp wrote:
Tosscobobble wrote:

While I appreciate some of the openness (lack of details) of the lore, I am surprised that there isn't more info about published things.

Here's a tunnel leading into the Darklands..... Great. To where?
Here's a town with a peculiar background, but figure out the details on your own

It's not like I'm talking about new stuff....this area was published years ago and abandoned it seems

This town, you mentioned, was it called Thornkeep? It has it's own dungeon system too- so mebbe that tunnel connects to the Emerald Spire one?

Just as an fyi, both Thornkeep and the Emerald Spire were started as Kickstarter projects to help the defunct Pathfinder Online MMO get off the ground. ;)

PS. Or you could always bring in other adventures, towns, and settings [3pp or 1pp] to help fill in the gaps and make it your own unique thing. ;)

I was referring to Mosswater.. It has some info, but nothing solid (unless I missed something)

The tunnel from Level 8 states it connects to level 13, but also splits off into the Darklands. Granted, its a sandbox idea, but I was curious if there was supposed to be anything specific attached.


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While I appreciate some of the openness (lack of details) of the lore, I am surprised that there isn't more info about published things.

Here's a tunnel leading into the Darklands..... Great. To where?
Here's a town with a peculiar background, but figure out the details on your own

It's not like I'm talking about new stuff....this area was published years ago and abandoned it seems


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Despite all the info about levels and such, I haven't found anything about the tunnel from level 8 to 13...

I've been modifying things to be level appropriate (I didn't find this until my players were level 10), but I try to stick as close to the module as possible.

It's fun to bump up a level to challenge them, then have them get to the next level as written. Makes the oddity of the Spire even more odd, lol

I'll make it into whatever once we get there (just reached Level 7), but I'm curious is there is any actual info about the tunnel, and where the offshoot leads. All it says is that it goes into the Darklands...

Any info is good. Thank you for any assistance in advance


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