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Suppose we have a ring of invisibility.
This is an item activated by a command word, as a standard action, which give invisibility as the spell for 3 minutes, almost infinite number of times per day.

Now I ask. Can I wear the ring, turn it and then pass it to a teammate who activates it and passes it to another, and so on?

in substance, after activating the ring, the spell continues to work even if I remove the ring?

Getting an actual errata for this will take weeks if not months. There is a long line of things waiting errata. The chance that this will suddenly jump to the front and be clearly resolved are near nil.

At this time, the best you can do is try for a majority opinion to submit as evidence of collective understanding.

Please, click FAQ near my question in the top of the topic.

TheJoker15 wrote:

Hi James!!!

I have a doubt.
If i use greater dispel magic for "area dispel" against a group of opponents, can i use the feat Destructive Dispel to make all them stunned?

Rules question; should go to the rules boards for a FAQ.

Please James, I need a reply.

Thank you very much, and i apologize for the OT.

Hi James!!!
I have a doubt.
If i use greater dispel magic for "area dispel" against a group of opponents, can i use the feat Destructive Dispel to make all them stunned?

Much like other smart combos of abilities, it is powerful. It's not any stronger than the Dazing Spell feat. What does a Lesser Metamagic Rod of Dazing Spell do to a Fireball? Makes it powerful as hell. Does this mean you should ban Dazing Spell as a feat?

Stun is more powerful then Daze. Dispel Magic is on all spellcasters' list, unlike fireball wich is only for 3 classes.

dissolve=dispel...
Sorry for my bad english...

The feat is not too powerful. Sickening Spell can apply to any spell you want, whereas Destructive Dispel only works on one or two spells and requires that you successfully dispel to work at all which, by the way, you're immune to if you don't have any spells on you to dispel.

Your GM is right, and it's his game anyway. Even if Paizo did errata this, he could still say "Nope. It still works."

How can you say that is not too powerful?

This feat is for the best debuff spell in the game. Expecialy at high level, it's not so rare that all the party has at least one spell active. Remember that you can dissolve also a spell of a potion, of a wand, or of a wondrous item (like boots of speed for example), and for this spell the check for dissolve is very easy...
In this case, you dissolve the spell (and this alone is already very powerful), you may STUN (one of the worst condition of the game), and, that goes wrong, you may make sickened all (a very good debuff, -2 on all check!!!!).

And it is not too powerful??

Wait a moment... The question is not about my interpretetion or my GM's interpretation. This is not a competition between me and my GM.
The question is about this feat and how is the correct use of it. And if I interpret in one way and my GM in an other way, and there are a lot of people like you that think in differenti way about this feat, maybe is better if the Paizo make an official FAQ (not necessarely an errata) for clarify.

My GM thinks that is how it works because the feat is ambiguous. The word "targeted" is the key of the question.
I think that the feat is only for one target opponent for two points:

1) the feat says "an opponent, that opponent", and it is in singular;

2) if the feat works for area dispel it is too powerful. If we think that Sickening Spell is a +2 metamagic feat, and the feat Distructive Dispel can also stun, we can understand that it is too powerful.

Maybe, IMHO, this feat need an official reply.

I don't know, but the terminology is very important in this game.
I think it is as you say Claxon, but my master doesn't believe this. He believes that the word "targeted" in that line allows to use the feat Destructive Dispel for area dispel...

Ok but in the description of the spell Greater Dispel Magic it's written:
"Roll one dispel check and apply that check to each creature in the area, as if targeted by dispel magic."

So, the group of opponents is considered targeted for the feat?

I have a doubt.
If i use greater dispel magic for "area dispel" against a group of opponents, can i use the feat Destructive Dispel to make all them stunned?