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moosher12 wrote:
Finoan wrote:
moosher12 wrote:
So, today is game day and we're winding up for my Kingmaker game, and I just told my Pathfinder 2E players about how the new Multi-Arm rules work, and boy are they rioting.

So have them make accounts and come here and explain their reasoning for their rioting.

Currently in my mind these people are hypothetical, not actually existent. They likely do exist, but I have no evidence of that. And they should be able to speak for themselves.

And if the reasoning is that they want a power bump that they can use in the Kingmaker game by somehow getting multiple arms on their character, then while that is a valid reason to riot that they aren't getting what they want, it isn't a valid reason for the game developers to change the game rules to give them what they want instead of giving me what I want - which is multi-armed characters that don't break the game balance.

My players are coming.

So, I am not an overly experienced pathfinder or starfinder player. I have run a bit of both and played a bit of both. BUT this change in rule feels like it doesnt make sense even in-universe. If a species has multiple limbs, then surely they know how all of those limbs work at once? A spider can use all 8 legs at once, and humans can use arms and legs at the same time, right? A strix can fly and shoot at the same time despite having four upper body limbs. If you have four arms, and have had all four your whole life, then you'd know how they work.

A drawback is fine, but a drawback that makes half their limbs useless doesn't feel fun at all. It would make me reconsider even playing a character with extra limbs in favour of one who doesn't have the gimped feature. I'd instead look at playing a race with a feature that isnt heavily restricted, as I feel like I'd forget that I have the extra arms.

Why not just make it a free action? Or give the limbs a restriction in the exact actions/gear they can use? D&D thri-keen have extra arms, and they have something exactly like this:

"Secondary Arms. You have two slightly smaller secondary arms below your primary pair of arms. The secondary arms can manipulate an object, open or close a door or container, pick up or set down a Tiny object, or wield a weapon that has the light property."

Why not have this as a basis instead of being overly restrictive?