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Omnius wrote:
Cavall wrote:Doesn't seem "obvious" danger to me. While a wizard with a spellbook may be dangerous it's not putting you in direct immediate danger to give him one.Except immediate isn't a requirement.
Only obvious.
Giving the BBEG the key to Hell with which he can bring a diabolical horde isn't immediate danger, but it's obvious danger.
The spell states "An affected creature never obeys suicidal or obviously harmful orders, but it might be convinced that something very dangerous is worth doing." Obvious danger is not necessarily a deterrant...and the OP was asking about obvious HARM. In the case of suggestion/charm person/etc I would think that the term HARM would be the same as Hostile Action, which is defined as "A hostile action is any attack or effect that causes direct harm to an opponent in the form of damage, negative conditions, or any other effect that penalizes or hinders a creature."
Thus, causing mental distress by having someone drop their weapon mid combat is "harm" in that it is causing an immediate hinderance. Asking that someone to hand their SPARE weapon over is not harm. By the same token, to the OP's question, asking someone to return stolen property is NOT harm even though you might perceive it to be something dangerous to do. It is not causing you immediate injury to do so, inflicting any penalties, nor is it doing even so little as just hindering you.