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Redneckdevil wrote:

What levels are yal playing at? I've notice a lot of dms will incorporate this when players are at low levels so that the game can run faster and sometimes smoother. Usually at higher levels the rule gets all but the spirit of the rule gets thrown out the window because characters are able to do a lot more than a low level character. They do it at lower levels because really there's not a lot that u are gonna benefit from free actions compared to higher level characters so they do the 1 free action basically as a way to say "talk or play". They might have been dealt with players who gave away info that the player knows to the character (meta gaming) or they've had players who talked at inappropriate times.

But again depends on what level ya are. If your low level, don't wry about it too much. If your concerned about how the rule will change at higher levels since you will be gaining more actionsand the free actions help to make those possible, then talk with the dm outside of game and bring up examples. If its at a higher level, then talk with the dm outside of game and ask if the restriction is mainly for talking and such and if the dm is not counting the free actions in ur full round attacks.

And maybe, your dm has encountered some major cheese in the past that has scarred him/her and then outside of game explain ur usual rotations and the free actions involved and see if those free actions are what they are counting.

Also playing devils advocate, usually 3 words is plenty enough.
Heal me! Help me! Kill it! Watch out! There's a trap! There's a monster! Over there! Get it off! Attack this one! Stay away! I'm dying! get on otherside! Burn it! Freeze it! Magic missile it! Etc etc etc.

I see it at any level that we have played at really. I am playing a 10th level fighter and the gm is limiting us even then.


I know a couple GMs that because of some players who somehow abused speaking in combat created a houserule that states no PC can speak more than 3 words unless a standard action is used. Also stemming from this is a limit of 1 free action per round. How am I supposed to accomplish anything when certain attacks, skills, and/or abilities can be done as said free action? It is most frustrating. My PC doesn't even speak in combat anymore as it is most unrealistic in ANY sense of the word to speak. I am not wasting an action on 5 words. I would rather attack instead.

In any case, I call shenanigans on it. Thoughts?


I was in a game where the GM was using material that converted terminator stuff (among the hodgepodge of other systems he loved to mash into one system) to D20 Modern. The biggest thing that pissed me off is when he changed the NPCs mid fight from T-400s to T-1000s just so he could kill my android. I haven't been back since.

Another happened to me last night. The GM tried to tell me that the grab universal monster ability can be used PULL my character as a FREE ACTION to said creature with no save from my character. I called bull on that. She retorted that the monster can and will do that. No. That ended my future gaming in that campaign. Not to mention the ridiculous house rule they use that if you want to speak while in combat, you are limited to 3 words. That's right, speaking in combat is limited to 3 words unless you want to use a standard action to speak. More bull crap.