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Hmm, the ACG errata? Interesting. I'd sort of expect it to fall under Unchained errata, but I guess pummeling style itself sort of needs its own defining. Alright! I'll take your word for it and wait then, Mark, thanks for the quick response~

It'll probably be over a month before my Monk ends up high enough level to need to worry about this anyhow.

(For some reason this forum is confusing me and things kept looking wrong when I tried to directly reply to your post, so... I didn't.)


Alright, I know you aren't giving "official" answers here, but there's an aspect about Unchained Monk that's been bothering me since I saw one of your posts in the general thread. I've sort of tried looking for any clarification on this, but I'm not very good at digging through these forums.

http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2s6s8&page=18?Unchained-The-Monk-Unchained# 866

Mark Seifter wrote:
AndIMustMask wrote:
extra attack that is nonlethal only, no? and cant be used with the apparently popular flying kick until 15th, correct?
Both correct. Still, you can flying kick in on the first round and then do an elbow smash later when you don't need to move (or with Pummeling, you can just elbow smash all the time). Those limitations don't exist on hammerblow, which doubles your dice on a single attack just like Vital Strike, but that does less damage. May be worth it though, especially since it can add to a high accuracy attack.

I was already wondering as soon as I read through the class whether Pummeling Style would still somehow qualify as a Flurry of Blows for allowing Style Strikes. I was leaning towards "probably not", since a lot of the interactions seemed like they would be kind of messy. But then this post jumped out at me, since it sounds like you're implying that usage of Pummeling would allow you to make use of Elbow Smash on the Pummeling charge (the "any time" situation flying kick doesn't allow). A lot of your posts were made with warnings of the things you suggested being your own houserules, but there doesn't seem to be that disclaimer here.

In short, do Pummeling Style and Pummeling Charge allow access to an Unchained Monk's Style Strikes? If so, how does Elbow Smash actually apply? Would it be part of the combined pummel attack, or would it still be a second follow up strike?

On a similar but more contrived situation, how would a successful Pummeling Headbutt interact with the Medusa's Wrath feat?