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Seriously considering a variant of your Intelligence build and wanted to know what you thought of Dual-Wielding Rapiers with an Effortless Lace?

Go for it if you think you can get away with it.

Seems to be working out. Also lets me snag Piranha Strike instead of Power Strike, which frees up those points in Strength. Do you think it'd be worth massively dumping Strength for an Int/Dex Investigator that can get away with light weapons? I didn't see any other feats with a higher Strength requirement.

Seriously considering a variant of your Intelligence build and wanted to know what you thought of Dual-Wielding Rapiers with an Effortless Lace? I'd probably be doing the Inspired Blade dip just because I'm having a very hard time saying no to it.

That said, Longarm + Enlarge Person on a Longspear build is really, really appealing. Especially with my party comp (Skald, Pally, Blast Sorc, Swashbuckler). It just feels so...wrong somehow to make a lower-Int Investigator, especially with Empiricist looking so delectable.

Shaken from demoralize does not stack with anything (due to a developer comment,) so Enforcer + Weapon of Awe does not make people frightened.

Ah yeah. And Frightened from Demoralize follows the same logic, so Enforcer + Weapon of Awe doesn't make people Panicked, I take it?

Thankee kindly for the help. Yeah, that makes sense. Too much time spent in games where damage is calculated applied pre-resists and then mitigated, so you're still dealing damage even if no damage is taken. Also too much reading into grammar and forgetting that people casually slap on commas.

Also, our DM house-rules that sentient undead (Vamps, Ghouls, etc...) can be demoralized but non-sentient cannot, which simplifies some things for me (Blistering Invective yay).

On the subject of fear chains and the fear ladder, our most veteran party member has guesstimated--admittedly based largely on 3.5 knowledge--that Weapon of Awe (mind-affecting fear Shaken on crit) stacks with Enforcer (demoralize Shaken on hit & intimidate, demoralize Frightened and Shaken on crit & Intimidate) to drive susceptible straight to Panicked on a successful crit and Intimidate. Do you guys know if that's how it works? And the lingering Shaken from Enforcer and Shaken from Weapon of Awe do stack to Frightened?

Hi, so I have a few question about a few mechanics of nonlethal damage, especially as they pertain to Enforcer; I tried googling this for quite some time but overall there doesn't seem to be much out there regarding nonlethal.

If you're using the Enforcer feat (intimidate upon dealing nonlethal damage) while doing nonlethal against Undead (immune to nonlethal damage), then are you still able to Intimidate on hit? On one hand, your attack did hit and you are dealing nonlethal damage, even if they're not going to take damage no matter what you roll. On the other hand, they are immune to nonlethal damage so whether you're dealing damage is debatable. I guess what it comes down to is whether your character is still "dealing damage" if they hit an opponent that's immune to that damage type. Is it that you deal damage but they don't take any due to immunity (nullification on their side) or that you don't deal damage to immunity (nullification from your side).

Another question on the subject of nonlethal damage obtained from Blade of Mercy. If you have multiple damage types on your attack--e.g. + 1d6 Fire from Flames of the Faithful--then is it all converted to nonlethal? Or is it just the stuff that would've been slashing from your weapon and the additional stuff retains its original damage type?

On last question, this one on the wording of Enforcer. The second half of the ability states:

"If your attack was a critical hit, your target is frightened for 1 round with a successful Intimidate check, as well as being shaken for a number of rounds equal to the damage dealt."

I'm a bit unsure on how to interpret that last clause. Is it saying that when you crit you automatically inflict Shaken for X rounds? And then you roll Intimidate to see if you can inflict Frightened on top of that? Or does the Intimidate roll determine both the Shaken and Frightened conditions? The people I was discussing it with and I thought the placement of the comma implied the former (auto-Shaken, possible Frightened), but we really weren't sure. Phrasing definitely allows for both interpretations. Can anyone here offer some insight?

Thank you very much for your help, everyone!