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MiraculousWaterBottle wrote:
So f we have email confirmation that the subscription purchase happened but no pdf yet that's just part of the ongoing troubles?

That's what I gather from this.


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"What’s black and white and red all over?"

For a moment I was thinking, so is this to be a newspaper dragon but then I remembered, that a few months ago, that the new Mocking Dragon is White and Black and Red all over. Looking forward to hearing more of that as I'm a fan of the personality.


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A VOPRAL DRAGON!? Oh god this is exciting to me as a GM, more so with what it does.


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I have to say I honestly LOVE what you guys did with the Cinder Dragons when comparing to the old Red Dragons. Really makes them feel like a threat by comparison.

I imagine we're going to cover some of the other Monster Core 2 dragons next but I really cannot wait to hear more about the Draconic Codex Dragons. They feel like such a mystery by comparison.

I know one of my hopes is for whatever dragons takes the role of silvers ironically enough gains silver-based attacks since I didn't realize that Silver Dragons didn't deal silver damage at all.


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I so cannot wait for these rules. Which is why it's tragic for me that with how my campaigns are going, by the time I get these book some military encounters that these rules would of been perfect for would of already happened. Either why I'm looking forward to Gen Con.


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Archpaladin Zousha wrote:
BookBird wrote:
-an Apocalypse Dragon, a dragon tied to Abaddon, which is a big swamp, and is said to have its body twisted by necrosis.
I'd wager probably this one, as they're fighting over a vast cemetery, which to me suggests they're in the Boneyard.

Oh that would be so nice, I hope that be true. Would be nice to see some more of the 1E dragons returning.


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One of my favorite NPCs introduced in the NPC core is the Deific Vessel. Makes for a spookier servant of the evil gods when you're dealing with what is effectively the closest thing to facing the gods from a lore standpoint. The one bit I'm slightly disappointed is the fact that by comparison for the other religious classes there is no advice on how to change up the mechanics to fit other gods, more so with holy gods since I assume they're just as capable of creating a Deific Vessel. I don't have anything against Urgathoa's vessel mind you, I just wish there was at least one more counterpart to compare to given it's unique and doesn't have a player version to draw upon like champion and cleric. As part of a campaign I'm running, I"m toying around with a devil-alligned vessel that changes the following abilities to better suit.

Void Tendrils=Infernal Lash: Basically the same except replacing the void trait with fire

Grave Pulse=Hellfire Ray: Instead of cold and void damage, it's spirit and fire damage. I recall hellfire ray being a neat spell in 1e and it having the death trait makes sense here.

Borrow Time=Time Investment: instead of being only able to affect undead, I've added devils as well as those that sign a contact that leads to the Hellish deity in question. I felt it would make sense for a divine vessel to have the ability to draw upon those contracts to heal.

Grave Chill=Diabolic heat: Wasn't sure what be fitting beyond the fire rune so I added the fearsome rune while keeping the death trait.

But that's as far as I've came up with in terms of that. But I'm curious if anyone one created any for one specific deity or even has a idea on how to take the concept but switch it over to a good aligned deity. I know one idea was that for the Void Tendril counterpart ability were to function in reverse and give the vessel the ability to heal others which I liked.


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That Tengu looks somewhat funny to me.....Hungerseed Tengu?


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Calliope5431 wrote:
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Ezekieru wrote:
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the previous level 26-30 creatures were re-balanced to be level 21-25 but with many new Mythic abilities put onto them. Their increased threat level would still exist, but it'd exist under the framework on the PF2E system instead of what they were in PF1E.

Yeah as someone who wanted 2e mythic to have 26-30 foes i'm kinda waiting to see what the if "level 21-25 mythics" truly feel like equivalent or not :O (because it does feel kinda weird if CR 26 demon lord would be level 21 mythic in 2e and lose in fight to CR 25 Treerazer who is still level 25 in 2e)

(and if CR 26-30 ALL are level 25 mythic.. Well that its own source of confusion)

I'm just surprised because canon products refer to level 26+ creatures. For instance, Osoyo the Blackfrost Whale is explicitly level 27

If you don't mind me asking, but where is the Osoyo Blackfrost Whale mentioned? I haven't heard of it before and I want to do some research on it now.


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Awakening the ocean wasn't on my bingo card, but it makes me excited.

Also is limitless Wildspell really a mythic destiny? Something about it's name seems a bit off to me compared to the other destinies that we know about.


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I'm hoping some more previews pop up, since the wait to next week is killing me. Like one question on my mind is exactly what mythic threats will be in the book by default.


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Aenigma wrote:
So while evil outsiders have two mythic destinies (apocalypse rider and archfiend), good outsiders have only one (ascended celestial)?

To be fair, that's assuming one of the unknown three isn't a good one. I really hope we find out what the other three are soon though.


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Evan Tarlton wrote:
Archpaladin Zousha wrote:
Prince Setehrael wrote:

Oh I am so excited.

And as far as Mythic Destinies revealed:
Archfiend
Apocalypse Rider
Ascended Celestial
Eternal Legend
Prophesied Monarch
Gosling

That's 6 out of 9 in War of Immortals and there is the Mortal Herald in Divine Mysteries next month.

It is a lovely day in the War of Immortals, and you are a horrible goose. :P
Do not speak this evil into existence! Please remember that the devs can see this!

You forget they made awakened animal a ancestry, so this is always been the secret plan....it is too late for any of us.


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Though one question I have is do Bloodragers still have bloodlines or do they just get spells from a tradition.


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Honestly I'm glad to see these archetypes, and how different they are compared to their 1E counterparts, and how they alter the classes.


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So how much longer until the official release?


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So when will this be properly available? I bought this earlier and redeemed the Foundry Code but it's not popping up.


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Berselius wrote:
I'm wondering, will the other Planar Dragons (aka Paradise Dragon, Apocalypse Dragon, Bliss Dragon, Crypt Dragon, Edict Dragon, etc etc) still be a part of the new Core?

As of right now they are not, however other families of dragons are brought up as still existing in the book so it's possible we'll run into them again.

I will say that I actually do enjoy the idea of the divine planes having more than one type of dragon that defines the realm. Given that even amongst the Archons, devils, and Aeons and the alike that they can be very different.


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Since they're connected to Heaven, I wonder the relationship with Paradise Dragons will be..... Also, mostly because the difference in lore, I like to imagine the old Planar Dragon's main difference with these divine dragons is that the old Planar dragons spread the influence of their homes, while these newer ones embody their home and often serve it's will....

Also in the book there is a term called Archdragon, what is that?


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WarDriveWorley wrote:
The sidebar on Kobolds and how their eggs pull power from nearby powerful beings, not just dragons, opens up some interesting possibilities for the Ancestry and Heritages in PC2

I didn't even think about that. That's a cool catch.


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Oh there we go. A awesome sight to see the iconic Green Dragons of Paizo remain in the game. Makes me ponder what other of their brethren made the base roster of the dragons. At the moment Diabolical Dragons takes up the role of evil red dragon, not sure if they're the same due to planar elements. Conspirator Dragons take up the old role of the scheming Brass and Blue dragons, but with the hyper focus on just that....I imagine the Empyrean might be similar to the golds of before


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Luis Loza wrote:
BookBird wrote:
Are some of the "weird" Dragons from 1e past (Bliss, Dream, Vortex etc) still in consideration for future additions or other lore stuff, or have they been mostly disregarded given their very limited presence in their prior release? I remember being glad to see Cloud Dragons in the Mwangi Expanse, but the revamp of 2e and the introduction of new dragon types dims the hope for some of those more "out there" options.
All of the dragons from Pathfinder's past are definitely in consideration for updates. Some of them, like the chromatic and metallic dragons, will require additional considerations to "remaster" them and make them a good fit for the game going forward. We're also excited to create new "weird" dragons, too. There's one I can think of that we're adding to Monster Core that feels very weird and creepy, at least to me, so hopefully it scratches that itch a bit!

I'm looking forward for the remastered classical dragons, as well as bigger groupings of dragons like the 'hell dragons' for lack of a better term. The chromatic and metallics are going to be the most interesting to me as I imagine you'll figure out a way to change them to stand out even more from the DnD dragons with new names and other features...just make me wonder if there is going to be a adventure path inspired from this remastering period.


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I'm so glad that it works now. Thank you Brian and the rest of your team!