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That's what I mean so you are 1/2 dead how do you know who is healing you to not accept a will save ect... Honestly a will save is the fact that you have to be able to actively oppose the spell by will power. You can't use any will power if you are unconscious. It's funny how this game is so screwed up that it does not make any sense. A character who throws a fire ball at a downed character still gets a reflex save lol.
Lorewalker wrote:The 'unconscious are willing' clause is designed so a friendly character can cast harmless spells on you when you are unconscious, such as cure light wounds, without a save. It isn't intended to allow someone to cast harmful spells on you easier.
I agree. But taking the RAW text as it is allows it. RAI, I'm sure is exactly as you are portraying it -- you gain a saving throw even if you are unconscious.
RAW is also more consistent and logically coherent. A spell is a unique object, and unless specified in the text of the spell, the caster's attitude toward you, or you toward the caster is meaningless.
It is the desire of the target as to whether he wants to resist the spell or not at the moment of application of that spell that determines if the target is willing or not.
Yes means he is willing, no means he is not (and he gets a save if one is allowed). This is an active choice (most of the time its an obvious one)
If you are unconscious, you can't make that active choice, and according to the text, you default to willing.
Voluntarily Giving up a Saving Throw: A creature can voluntarily forego a saving throw and willingly accept a spell's result.
Someone is going to have to explain to me how you can willingly accept a spell's result and not be considered a willing target, and vice versa.