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I have a campaign where a player wants to play a goblin stone oracle that uses the rock throwing relevation to gain the rock throwing ability. He states that he can use two weapon fighting to throw two rocks a turn. I think its a cool idea and build but want to make sure it works or if there are penalties he will take because of using improvised weapons.

I have a campaign where a player wants to play a goblin stone oracle that uses the rock throwing relevation to gain the rock throwing ability. He states that he can use two weapon fighting to throw two rocks a turn. I think its a cool idea and build but want to make sure it works or if there are penalties he will take because of using improvised weapons.

My dm states sonic damage will not travel through water. I am a soundstriker bard. I want to use wierd words to hit a creature for sonic damage that is underwater. Is he right?

Hello I have read many of these forums for different characters I have played over the years. This is my first time posting since I can't seem to find a definitive answer to my question.

In my current pathfinder campaign I am playing a negotiator bard. My GM is trying to state that because I chose the archetype Negotiator bard and give up versatile performance, that I cannot take bardic masterpieces. all because of this one line

Masterpiece: The bard gains a bardic masterpiece, as if he were giving up a feat to learn it. He must meet the masterpiece’s prerequisites, and the masterpiece must list ranks in a Perform skill that the bard has chosen with versatile performance as a prerequisite. This option can be selected multiple times.

I told him when you look up bardic masterpiece that it says you can give up a spell known or a feat and that the advanced versatile masterpiece choice is just a way for bards to get masterpieces without giving up a feat or spell known.

What is your guys take on this. Are Archetypes that give up versatile performance able to take bardic performances?