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Thank you for the detailed reply! I'll let my player know it works but would need quick draw to do more full attacks.

I have a campaign where a player wants to play a goblin stone oracle that uses the rock throwing relevation to gain the rock throwing ability. He states that he can use two weapon fighting to throw two rocks a turn. I think its a cool idea and build but want to make sure it works or if there are penalties he will take because of using improvised weapons.

Thanks Rennaivx!

I have a campaign where a player wants to play a goblin stone oracle that uses the rock throwing relevation to gain the rock throwing ability. He states that he can use two weapon fighting to throw two rocks a turn. I think its a cool idea and build but want to make sure it works or if there are penalties he will take because of using improvised weapons.

Thanks guys your awesome !

My dm states sonic damage will not travel through water. I am a soundstriker bard. I want to use wierd words to hit a creature for sonic damage that is underwater. Is he right?

Thanks guys I appreciate the help!

Hello I have read many of these forums for different characters I have played over the years. This is my first time posting since I can't seem to find a definitive answer to my question.

In my current pathfinder campaign I am playing a negotiator bard. My GM is trying to state that because I chose the archetype Negotiator bard and give up versatile performance, that I cannot take bardic masterpieces. all because of this one line

Masterpiece: The bard gains a bardic masterpiece, as if he were giving up a feat to learn it. He must meet the masterpiece’s prerequisites, and the masterpiece must list ranks in a Perform skill that the bard has chosen with versatile performance as a prerequisite. This option can be selected multiple times.

I told him when you look up bardic masterpiece that it says you can give up a spell known or a feat and that the advanced versatile masterpiece choice is just a way for bards to get masterpieces without giving up a feat or spell known.

What is your guys take on this. Are Archetypes that give up versatile performance able to take bardic performances?