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Am I missing something about Yoon? No melee, ranged, arcane, or divine skill that helps her in combat. I guess she is just adding her first power (recharge a blessing to add fortitude and fire to combat check) to strength or dexterity rolls? I feel like I'm not getting the whole story on this character

To sum this all up and make sure I'm understanding everything 100% -

I encounter the Blood Demon and plan on using The Staff of Cackling Wrath.
The Blood Demon's text says I must succeed at a check to play spells wit the attack trait.
The staff has text that reads "this counts as playing a spell"
To use the staff for my combat check I must first succeed at the check stated on the Blood Demons card.
If I succeed at the check stated on the Blood Demons card, and use The Staff for my combat check, The Staff, because of its card type (Item) and the text on the card that states it counts as playing a spell, would then use up both my item and spell slot for that encounter.

That's how I'm understanding everything. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Just to make sure I'm understanding -

If you encounter a monster/henchman/villain that requires a check to play attack spells (Blood Demon) you must succeed at the check to be able to play any card with the attack trait that says "this counts as playing a spell"

If you encounter a monster/henchman/villain that doesn't allow attack spells to be played at all (Carrion Golem) then cards with the attack trait that say "this counts as playing a spell" cannot be played at all.

Where we are still unclear is whether or not playing an item that reads "this counts as playing a spell" fills the item and spell slots during an encounter or just the spell slot.

So by that logic, If I made a successful check to play attack spells, I would also be able to play an item because the item (Staff of Cackling Wrath) now counts as an attack spell and would fill the spell slot for playing one card of each type during a check, which in turn leaves the slot for an item to be played during the encounter vacant.

I would still like some more input on my first question. Don't take that the wrong way cartmanbeck. I like what you had to say and am leaning that way too, but I'm just trying to be as informed about the situation as I can be.

- Edit -

Not to get too much into semantics, but I wonder if the word "counts" could be a clue?

If it counts as playing a spell then, in my opinion, that would mean for that encounter your one spell has been played. Staff of Cackling Wrath is not a spell card. It is an Item card with the attack trait and not a spell card with the attack trait. I think it will fill the spell and item slot when played.

If that sounds like the ranting of a madman, please, someone hit me

Quick question about cards that say "this counts as playing a spell"

There are some monsters and henchmen that say can't play attack spells or make you succeed at a check to play attack spells. I'm wondering how that works when you play an item with the attack trait that says this counts as playing a spell. For example-

I have to fight the blood demon.
I play Staff of Cackling Wrath.
Since this card says this counts as playing a spell and it has the attack trait should I have attempted the Blood Demons check to play spells with the attack trait?

I feel like the answer will be rather obvious. I'm just confused on if, while in my hand, it's an item and then once it is played it becomes a spell, or it stays an item, but counts as playing a spell so then I wouldn't be able to play a spell like Brilliance along with it.

Thanks for your help

Oh, dang! Thank you for that correction. That's good to know.

The card that comes immediately to mind is Unearthly Aim - Add 10 plus the adventures scenario deck number to combat check that strength, melee, ranged trait.

Something powerful like that would work well, I think.

Skizzerz, can you tweak a characters powers? It might be interesting to , in her role card, to add some language that states if this bow item is recharged then add more powerful dice. Though, I would hate to make her too reliant on one card because, said in the comments, she is a boon hound.

Hmm, lots to consider.

I hope I'm not assuming too much in that Raheli was based of Rama from the Hindu religion? That's really cool!

Makes some sense with her Dex stat and the parallel that Rama had a great bow.

Hmm, might have to create a special bow that is an item that can only be used to defeat henchmen or villain with a check of 25 or higher. Rama;s bow (Brahmastra) was considered the most powerful weapon, capable of destroying all creation

I think it would have to be a bury unless you can roll some kind of super high number to discard it. Maybe roll a wisdom 30 to discard. Just musing out loud. Pay no attention to me :)

Excited to see what kind, and how many other cohorts will be included in this deck. Trying to think of the craziest cohort that could work with a witch.

Improvised Cohort. Picture is just an old shoe.

KS_brkfst wrote:

This post got me thinking about what other classes, that are in the base set and character add-on, don't have full on class decks yet. Off the top of my head...

Magus
Bloodrager
Cavalier
Arcanist
Swashbuckler
Hunter
Shaman

Missing any?

I think that's all the characters we've seen, but we've also got investigator, skald, brawler, kineticist, occultist, psychic, mesmerist, spiritualist, medium, ninja, samurai, slayer, and vigilante to look forward to someday!

Dang! Are those the extra classes in the iconic heroes miniature set?

It makes me wonder, seeing how far in advance they plan the class decks, how far out they plan the base sets. Could there be an asian themed one in the works where they introduce the samurai and ninja? That would be cool!

This post got me thinking about what other classes, that are in the base set and character add-on, don't have full on class decks yet. Off the top of my head...

Magus
Bloodrager
Cavalier
Arcanist
Swashbuckler
Hunter
Shaman

Missing any?

Then add whatever new classes come with Mummy's Mask. Whew, that's a lot to look forward to.

I guess paizo could always pass on some of the class decks. Trying to differentiate hunters from rangers would be difficult, but that's just me.