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            Grapple rules, confused a little after looking them up again. Linking relevant information first.
I remember going with a light shield over a heavy shield to facilitate grappling, but now I'm not sure if it really helps. You never actually lose the shield bonus while holding another item in the hand, but can't hold a weapon. Grappling would seem pretty involved and probably equivalent to a weapon. Comparing it to a buckler, which would allow grappling (at a -1) or any other weapon use, but can't shield bash, they seem rather equivalent in trade offs. So I think I screwed up there.
In this case, Thorthal probably would have unstrapped and dropped the shield instead of gaining Improved Grapple. The grapple check would have been 15 (17 without grapple penalty), which is probably sufficient to grapple the creature?
 
	
 
     
    