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BellyBeard wrote:
IomedaesRightToe wrote:
So, what is an attack roll? The CRB at page 446 states that “When you use a Strike action or any other attack action, you attempt a check called an attack roll.” Ok, so not really helpful, as now the question moves to what is an “attack action”? This term is not defined in the CRB, so we have to do a little digging. First, we know that a “Strike” action is one type of attack action. Second, the multiple attack penalty applies any time you make more than one attack action during the course of your turn. So far, nothing definitive on whether an “attack action” includes Athletics tasks.
I'm pretty sure any action with the attack trait is an attack action. I think this is overthinking and reading too closely into specific sentences from all over the book to reach a conclusion.

My biggest issue with that is the section of the CRB that states “Attack rolls are compared to a special difficulty class called an Armor Class (AC), which measures how hard it is for your foes to hit you with Strikes and other attack actions.” p. 447. So they specifically say that attack rolls are compared to AC. And the Athletic Tasks, like trip, specifically call out performing an "Athletics check" which is compared to a save DC (reflex or fortitude). I don't see any justification for converting the specifically referenced "athletics check" into an attack roll, especially considering it doesn't target AC.


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Phntm888 wrote:
Hiruma Kai wrote:


Only issue I see with that is that to grab a focus spell requires another wizard archetype feat.

As it stands, class feats for the build go like:

1) Power Attack (or other 1st level fighter feat)
2) Wizard Dedication
4) Basic Wizard spellcasting
6) Basic Arcana (Cantrip Expansion? - don't see any good options here)
8) Advanced Aracana to grab Bespell Weapon

Just saying - for Basic Arcana, instead of cantrip expansion, you could take the Hand of the Apprentice feat, which gives you the Hand of the Apprentice focus spell. That gives you both a focus spell and a ranged attack option with your primary weapon, just in case.

I don't think you can take Hand of the Apprentice. Hand of the Apprentice has "Universalist Wizard" as a prerequisite, which is a function of the "Arcane School" wizard class feature, which you do not get from the wizard dedication. Therefore, without starting as wizard, you can't satisfy the prerequisite.