keftiu wrote:
Well, even if the theory is right Paizo still wouldn't be expecting everyone buying the core rule book to know or be aware of this in world event. Most people buying the game won't know about all of the supplemental projects, so the deities in the core rule book would still need to be playable as is even if one of them might be getting eliminated in an adventure later on.
I know Paizo said that Arazni isn't replacing the portfolio of the dead god, but I did see the theory that it would be Lamashtu to die, so that Arazni can be the goddess of "monstrocities" instead, which I do think she'd be good for. My current guess is now either Torag or Lamashtu. Given my track record, I expect them now to both be declared safe over the next two weeks.
Icoret wrote:
Well, I was wrong. Not sure who it will be now.
I don't know what book it was from, but I love the lore that Cayden Cailean lets orphans without a last name use his. It's such a nice little detail and it improved my opinions of Cayden 1000x when I learned it. I used to think of him as mainly the party god, but that little piece of information is why I now understand that he is firmly Good with a capital G even if Pathfinder is moving away from alignment. In my most recent game of Wrath of the Righteous I'm playing an Azata named Themir Cailean who worships Cayden, with the headcanon that he was an orphan who took the god's name due to his lack of parents.
After thinking about it for a while I want to put my bet down for Erastil being the one eliminated. I think he's the god of the stuff least likely for Adventurers to want. I think killing him would represent a really big shakeup that would impact the entire world, while not removing any of the really fun splashy and flavourful deities that tend to be fan favourites. I don't claim to be 100% confident in this guess, but it this was a casino I would be putting my money on him.
Aaron Shanks wrote:
I got my refund, thank you. I don't want to be rude, but I do want to be firm about something. I really don't think you should consider this acceptable as a product. It looks really bad. Obviously I can't speak for everybody, but I personally won't be buying any other pdfs that share this similar lack of quality. And previously I would just buy pdfs from here without question, but it's worrying to hear that you consider it okay to sell something which looks like this. It is a big disappointment because I really wanted to read this one, and it was the book I've been looking forward to the most since it was announced. Anyways, I got my money back so I'm going to move on now. There are other books to read. Thank you for your time.
Aaron Shanks wrote:
Is there a way to get a refund then?
I would be surprised if it was Sarenrae because I think she's the element of Pathfinder lore that has the most "reach". Even people who have never heard of Paizo know who she is because of Critical Role and it's a very good "funnel" towards Pathfinder to have her out there. But that foreshadowing is pretty damning, so what do I know. One question I have is, do we know if they planned out this storyline prior to the OLG disaster? Because if they didn't I think that increases the probability of it being Asmodeus.
AJCarrington wrote:
Good idea, I also sent in an email about this. Hopefully they see that this matters a lot to people - I for one would not keep buying pdfs on here if they are all going to be of this low quality going forward.
Andoran : Honestly I think it would be hard to make an Andoran section that I didn't like. Having a democracy nation in the middle of a place/time period where basically everything else is a monarchy was an easy way to get to me. I do generally prefer the more idealistic view of this place, but even when it gets into corruption and decadence I'm still excited for more. I would love to see more about how they are dealing with the changes in Cheliax recently, and get some more adventure friendly locations explored. Druma : Unfortunately, I don't know enough about Druma to even know what else I want. But getting more detail might be nice, I don't even know enough to give this place a fair shake at the moment. Five Kings Moutains : We just got Highhelm, so I don't have too much else I'm dying to see from them. Galt : I love revolutionary settings, and I know Galt is more of a "revolution is bad" place, but it's still got that charm for me. I'd love to see how they are dealing with the destruction of those soul trapping weapons of theirs (someone correct me if I'm misremebering something here). Honestly, I wouldn't mind if they stayed a chaotic mess, as long as it was a fun one. Kyonin : There are two things I want from Kyonin. Elf gates and Chaotic Good elves. I'd just love for there to be a lot of influence from Castrovel, and honestly just a lot of weirdness in general. And I know Pathfinder is moving away from alignment now (and I don't disagree with that decision), but we can still get that vibe even if we don't have the label. Which I don't think any previous look at the place has really capture before imo.
Qadira: This is the nation (province?) I am most interested in seeing. I would love to see Paizo take an in depth look at this area in the 2E realm. Hopefully it can get a similar treatment to what the Mgwani expanse got. But just as importantly with Rage of Elements coming out soon, hopefully a lot of that can tie together and we can have a realm with tons of Kineticist and elemental fun to be had all in one place. With Jalmeray being retconed* so that genies aren't treated poorly there, it would be interesting if Qadira remained a place where genies get the short end of the stick so that both flavours become an option. But given Golarion's past history of using the Evil Arab a little too frequently, I would understand if this was changed. *I believe this was a retcon which was explained in universe as outsiders making assumptions/spreading tales. Katapesh: We've got a lot of changes to here recently, especially with Firebrands, so honestly I don't have any real wishes I just want a solid source of what life is like there "now". Thuvia: ...I will be honest, I don't really care about Thuvia. Rahadoum: I would honestly prefer that this entire place be retconed to not be the evil atheist land where evil atheists oppress all the good and noble religious people of the world. But I won't go too far into that since I already talked about my issues on another thread, I'll just say that unless this place does a real 180 to avoid that angle I'm just never going to touch it. Osirion: Another area that I would like to see get the Mgwani expanse treatment. There is a lot of potential here for very interesting stuff. I will admit I've never played or run Mummy's Mask, but I would not say no to a new adventure set here even if it's not at the top of my list.
What I'm really interested in is how much story there will be. I will play an arpg with a really good story, but I can never hold any interest in one that puts all of it's focus into gameplay. Happy this exists for the people who want it, but I probably won't be backing it unless we see something really interesting in the stretch goals or something similar.
This is a hard question, because there's so many really good deities in Pathfinder. I think it's one of the best parts of the setting/worldbuilding. If I had to pick just one it would be Sarenrae. I love sun gods and redemption gods so combining both into one package is a guaranteed win for me. Her backstory fighting Rovagug is also very badass. There's a lot of honourary mentions as well. Caiden Cailen is such a cool concept as the "accidental god". Milani is a big one for me since I always love liberators of any kind. And ever since playing the Wrath of the Righteous CRPG I've been a big fan of Nocticula as well. And finally I have to mention Iomadae because I love Paladin gods.
This is my first time posting here, so I'm sorry if there are any weird formatting issues. So, I'm a big fan of Golarion, but my biggest issue with the 1E lore was the way atheists* were depicted and treated by the cosmology. Either we were running God's Not Dead esque nations of religious intolerance, or getting sacrificed to the apocalypse god, or else just being left to rot and spend eternity in the boneyard. Nothing as bad as the Wall of Atheists, but that's a low bar and there's really no reason for such ill treatment. I do remember one city in Heaven made up of the souls of atheists that were fighting for recognition, which was nice, but I have no idea why that isn't just the normal situation. I haven't read any new 2E books that cover the River of Souls (not saying they don't exist - just that I haven't read them) so I was just wondering if this was still the case or not. I have always thought it would be such a simple way of doing things to just say that atheists* go to whatever plane of existence matches their alignment like everybody else but just not to any particular god's domain within that plane. This is my first post here, so I hope this doesn't come across as trying to stir up trouble, I'm really just looking for answers. *Atheists in this case referring to people who don't deny the existence of the beings who call themselves gods but at the same time don't believe they deserve worship just for being powerful. I'm aware that this isn't how the word is used in the real world, but it's the closest analogue and commonly used. |