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Maybe as something to test towards this, if you've spent the card feat you can take THAT card from any class deck? Or a specific class deck? Then Kyra could get any ADDITIONAL weapons from the fighter deck and Zarlova could get additional spells from Wizard? Easier? Less bookkeeping? No need for making up "powerful you didn't multiclass options"?

3 players, 10 mini locations. Yeah, it seemed easy closing both sides. More anti-climatic (especially after DINOSAURS! 2 scenarios earlier).

Lot of sadness when closing 1 location and seeing at the bottom of the other (now closed location) a 4 weapon. Kyra really wanted to get her Spellblade. Not enough magic swords in that cleric deck.

Did this last night. We had pulled basic/elites but as the scenario specified putting in the rums figured we should dig them out for this. And we did get both of them before we fought the villain.

Of course the first time my Kyra fought him he stripped both weapons and the attack spell I had picked up from my hand. But at that point we were in a pretty good shape with just 2 locations open, and able to temporarily close shark island at will.

B) Yes, that is a concern. I don't like being required to put 3 power feats into the base character. And that's something we can bring up. Although 3 in the base character is not as bad as 4.

And that I had to reiterate my point several times before you admitted it's a concern and something to bring up is kind of why I'm hoping for acknowledgement from someone other than a VO (voice over? Vogon Orator? verfied organic?)

Because appendix III aside you still need to have started before and have access to downloads before. And hey, you can still get those 2 roles, roles aren't part of the tier system. Unless every Tier 3 adventure going forward is worded to make sure of that.

I would still like updated season 0 adventures for the tier system. Listing what tier it is, who can play, what the tier rewards are, and removing scenario rewards that are no longer rewarded under the tier system.

As Non Tier play is an option in season 0 it could be changed to something like (as an example for 0-3c "Any players not using the Tier option gain 1 card feat").

The tier system is a really good start ... but something specific for Tier 3 and some updates to scenarios would make it a lot better and a lot more user friendly.

A) I was going to be a lot more snarky here regarding the optional nature of the tier system. Unless you have a page number on it being optional in the community packet, it isn't. That's also why I said "technically" in my prior post. That's also why I said I didn't plan to use it for 0-3 in my prior post.

B) This is still going to be a factor for future players/characters that will jump between and therefore will use the tier system. Tier system at 3 means you get your power feat before your role, and have 1 less power feat available from your role. Do you really not see that as a point of concern?

Well I don't believe there is an "If you are going to use Tier play" option technically. I have (and will continue) using the normal printed scenario rewards on 0-3 because it's not as though I am able to jump over to 1-3 and double dip at the moment.

But that nobody else seems to have an issue with going from (pre-Tier), ending 0-3 with 3 power feats, 1 of them for being able to be for your role vs (Tier) ending 0-3 with 3 feats and needing 2 more scenarios before you can get a power feat in your role tells me everybody is well past Tier 3.

It would be nice to see 2 things. First updating the adventures for the Tier system. Removing the feat rewards that are no longer there. Add a section up front that "This is a Tier 1 adventure. It can be played by Tier 1 or 2 characters. After completing [Reward system, and moving on to next tier description]."

Second an exception for Tier 3 so that the power feat you get comes at the end with the role. The role should be part of the tier system rewards anyways as some players (not I, surely not yourselves, but tell me you don't know them) would run 0-3 and 1-3 and as the Tier system only mentions Skill, Card, and Power feats would claim rights to BOTH ROLES.

In general, per tier, you get one skill feat, one power feat and one card feat.

You don't get two power feats as you thought.

There is a specific skill feat given as a reward from 0-4A, however.

The easiest thing is to remove all references to feat rewards from scenarios and adventures in Season 0. Except for the additional Skill feat from 0-4A. (You need to actually complete that one to gain the additional skill feat.)

Even though the 2nd Power feat is an Adventure reward not a Scenario reward?

Ok, per the 0-3 Scenario.
For completing Scenario 0-3a: Each character gains a skill feat.
For completing Scenario 0-3b: Each character chooses weapon or spell and draws a random card of that type from the box.
For completing Scenario 0-3c: Each character gains a card feat.
For completing Scenario 0-3d: Each character chooses a type of boon other than loot and draws a random card of that type from the box. (Plus an RPG Reward)
For completing ALL SCENARIOS: Each character chooses a role card and gains a power feat.

Per the Tier system (And my apologies, I saw 3 instead of 4 when reading): A character gains one skill feat after
successfully completing one scenario, one power feat after
successfully completing two scenarios, and one card feat
after successfully completing four scenarios.

I guess my question is what rewards are we getting for completing all scenarios using the Tier system?

I can't imagine getting both (Which would then give 2 Skill Feats for completing 0-3a first). But doing the scenarios in order also gets the card feat for that tier early (after 3 scenarios instead of 4). There is also no Power Feat during that tier from scenarios, and I don't believe we'd get the reward of a Role for completing the whole adventure and then NOT get 1 of the powers from our shiny new role.

MY THOUGHTS ARE that if I do all 4 of those scenarios I will end up with:
1 Skill Feat, 1 Card Feat, 2 Power Feats plus a role, plus the weapon or spell, plus the any other Non Loot card.

EDIT:I hope this is an ok level of info? I thought being more specific on the info needed was better, but if scenario rewards shouldn't be posted I apologize and will remove.

So to make sure, the tiers would replace scenario rewards that are also skill/power/card feats. What about Adventure rewards?

For example, we made some progress in 0-3 the other night (0-3a, 0-3b, 03-c). Which would get us the skill, card, and power feat (and not the rewards for those scenarios? Even the extra deck upgrades?).

If we did 0-3d completing the adventure we get to choose a Role and a Power feat. Would we be getting BOTH power feats then? If not can we wait on spending the power feat till we get the role?

Just DL'd those sheets to check that out. That is pretty crappy.

I thought Lem had the Finesse ability (using a weapon with Finesse gives him Dexterity: Melee)? Rapier should be fine for him then.

I'm hoping you only track the cards obtained from scenario rewards. Otherwise I'll have to track down my players as I didn't note what normal deck upgrades they took.

First attempt with a group of 5 (I played Kyra, we had an Ezren, Olenjack, Meliski, and Wrathack) was that we lost pretty badly (though no deaths).
But it was 1 player's 1st time playing, and another player's 2nd. And with the number of characters I'm not as familiar with other players' powers (would have reminded Olenjack about his evading ability). Looking forward to more sessions, and maybe even winning some ;)