Foxwander |
There is a question at my game about whether Beastmorph works with cognatogens- specifically with the Mindchemist archetype whose cognatogen ability replaces the standard Alchemist's Mutagen ability. The Beastform Mutagen ability specifically mentions that it work's off "a beastmorph’s mutagen". Since a Mindchemist/Beastmorph doesn't necessarily have "Mutagens" (unless they take it as a discovery) it could be interpreted that they cannot use the Beastform Mutagen ability (which obviously makes Beastmorph a useless archetype combo for them). However, the cognatogen discovery description says it "works just like the mutagen ability" and "All limitations of mutagens apply to cognatogens as if they were the same substance". THAT can be interpreted to say Beastform works just fine with cognatogens (in fact, that is the view of what discussions I've found about it on this board). But even then one could say that it still requires having the "mutagen" ability in the first place, that is Mindchemists could not also be Beastmorphs without taking "mutagen" as a discovery- they could then trigger Beastform with their cognatogens. Although that seems to be arguing semantics rather than the intention which I think is: cognatogen = mutagen therefore Mindchemist + Beastmorph works just fine. So the question is- can Beastmorphs use their abilities with cognatogens regardless of whether they have the mutagen ability?