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In the pathfinder Bestiary there is a detailed table on how much damage certain natural weapons deal based on their size, but I can't find an explanation about a + on some monsters.

For example, the Half-Fiend Minotaur, on page 171 of the Pathfinder bestiary, has a an attack:

gore +6 (1d6+3), and a powerful charge gore +13 2d6 +9

On page 302 the table explains the 1d6 comes from it's size, but it doesn't explain the +3. Is that something natural that would be unchanged even if it were changed by, say, enlarge person, or reduce person?

And powerful charge, described on page 303 doesn't really explain where it gets that from and how to apply it when size changes.

Would appreciate any information to clear this up for me.


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A question came up in a game recently on how "Unearthly Grace" works. Which adds a monster's Charisma Modifier to reflection bonus and saving throws. The Nymph is one Monster that has it.

Logically speaking, at first we thought it was like... she is just too beautiful to want to hit - but that raises questions about monsters who can't see at all, or who don't care at all about physical beauty, like the undead, or even things like Goblins who logically would consider Beautiful as unattractive. It also raised questions about how it would affect things like saving throws.

Then I saw the same ability in a monster of the underdark:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20031003e

So is it a matter of... so beautiful... or the kind of charisma that just affects the way she moves regardless of how it looks. The word makes me think it is that her charisma makes her graceful so would still work even with monsters who are blind. But I am not sure.

So how exactly does such an ability work? With something like "Stunning Glance" it clearly seems to be a gaze attack, and with "Blinding Beauty" it's obviously a matter of appearance. But "Unearthly Grace" is a bit different since there are so many other monsters that can act differently based on how the ability works.

Would Unearthly Grace apply even if the monster would reasonably consider a Nymph to be ugly, or if a monster has no regard for beauty at all?

And if it would work for a monster who would consider her ugly, would that be like a negative deflection bonus to AC instead?


in Dungeons and Dragons 3.5 Monster Manual, they do by the 10/11 Rule for Dice, so to find out the ability score adjustment I would just subtract 10 from even scores and 11 from odd scores. So, take Nymph for example:

Str 10 - 10 = 0
Dex 17 - 11 = +6
Con 12 - 10 = +2
Int 16 - 10 = +6
Wis 17 - 11 = +6
Cha 19 - 11 = +8

D&D Nymph Ability Adjustments: +6 Dex,

+2 Con, +6 Int, +6 Wis, +8 Cha

But looking in the Pathfinder Bestiary has me a bit confused.

Str 10 - 10 = 0
Dex 21 - 11 = +10
Con 18 - 10 = +8
Int 16 - 10 = +6
Wis 17 - 11 = +6
Cha 25 - 11 = +14

Apparent Pathfinder Nymph Ability Adjustments:

+10 Dex, +8 Con, +6 Int, +6 Wis, +14 Cha

Does Pathfinder use the same 10/11 rule, and if so, does that mean Nymph as a character got that much stronger without a challenge rating increase? Or is there some new system for figuring out an Ability Score adjustment of a monster?

And on a side note, how would you adjust the challenge rating of a monster that has as many levels of spells as it's challenge rating if you removed all those spells and gave it a different class in a story? For example, what would a Nymph's Challenge rating be with no spells but everything else?

Thanks.