In the interests of figuring out what AP to play next, I've put together a series of AP surveys.
Here is the survey for Sky King's Tomb and here are the raw results. Anyone who would be willing to fill it out who is playing or running the campaign, it would be much appreciated!
Here is the reddit thread with all the surveys / raw results for those interested.
are you only looking for people who have completed the AP? I'm GMing but we are still early on.
There is a question later which asks for ratings per book and gives a not played option. The survey is also set up to be editable later on.
In the interests of figuring out what AP to play next, I've put together a series of AP surveys.
Here is the survey for Age of Ashes and here are the raw results. Anyone who would be willing to fill it out who is playing or running the campaign, it would be much appreciated!
Here is the reddit thread with all the surveys / raw results for those interested.
In the interests of figuring out what AP to play next, I've put together a series of AP surveys.
Here is the survey for Extinction Curse and here are the raw results. Anyone who would be willing to fill it out who is playing or running the campaign, it would be much appreciated!
Here is the reddit thread with all the surveys / raw results for those interested.
In the interests of figuring out what AP to play next, I've put together a series of AP surveys.
Here is the survey for Agents of Edgewatch and here are the raw results. Anyone who would be willing to fill it out who is playing or running the campaign, it would be much appreciated!
Here is the reddit thread with all the surveys / raw results for those interested.
In the interests of figuring out what AP to play next, I've put together a series of AP surveys.
Here is the survey for Abomination Vaults and here are the raw results. Anyone who would be willing to fill it out who is playing or running the campaign, it would be much appreciated!
Here is the reddit thread with all the surveys / raw results for those interested.
In the interests of figuring out what AP to play next, I've put together a series of AP surveys.
Here is the survey for Fists of the Ruby Phoenix and here are the raw results. Anyone who would be willing to fill it out who is playing or running the campaign, it would be much appreciated!
Here is the reddit thread with all the surveys / raw results for those interested.
In the interests of figuring out what AP to play next, I've put together a series of AP surveys.
Here is the survey for Strength of Thousands and here are the raw results. Anyone who would be willing to fill it out who is playing or running the campaign, it would be much appreciated!
Here is the reddit thread with all the surveys / raw results for those interested.
In the interests of figuring out what AP to play next, I've put together a series of AP surveys.
Here is the survey for Quest for the Frozen Flame and here are the raw results. Anyone who would be willing to fill it out who is playing or running the campaign, it would be much appreciated!
Here is the reddit thread with all the surveys / raw results for those interested.
In the interests of figuring out what AP to play next, I've put together a series of AP surveys.
Here is the survey for Outlaws of Alkenstar and here are the raw results. Anyone who would be willing to fill it out who is playing or running the campaign, it would be much appreciated!
Here is the reddit thread with all the surveys / raw results for those interested.
In the interests of figuring out what AP to play next, I've put together a series of AP surveys.
Here is the survey for Blood Lords and here are the raw results. Anyone who would be willing to fill it out who is playing or running the campaign, it would be much appreciated!
Here is the reddit thread with all the surveys / raw results for those interested.
In the interests of figuring out what AP to play next, I've put together a series of AP surveys.
Here is the survey for Kingmaker and here are the raw results. Anyone who would be willing to fill it out who is playing or running the campaign, it would be much appreciated!
Here is the reddit thread with all the surveys / raw results for those interested.
In the interests of figuring out what AP to play next, I've put together a series of AP surveys.
Here is the survey for Gatewalkers and here are the raw results. Anyone who would be willing to fill it out who is playing or running the campaign, it would be much appreciated!
Here is the reddit thread with all the surveys / raw results for those interested.
In the interests of figuring out what AP to play next, I've put together a series of AP surveys.
Here is the survey for Stolen Fate and here are the raw results. Anyone who would be willing to fill it out who is playing or running the campaign, it would be much appreciated!
Here is the reddit thread with all the surveys / raw results for those interested.
In the interests of figuring out what AP to play next, I've put together a series of AP surveys.
Here is the survey for Sky King's Tomb and here are the raw results. Anyone who would be willing to fill it out who is playing or running the campaign, it would be much appreciated!
Here is the reddit thread with all the surveys / raw results for those interested.
In the interests of figuring out what AP to play next, I've put together a series of AP surveys.
Here is the survey for Season of Ghost and here are the raw results. Anyone who would be willing to fill it out who is playing or running the campaign, it would be much appreciated!
Here is the reddit thread with all the surveys / raw results for those interested.
In the interests of figuring out what AP to play next, I've put together a series of AP surveys.
Here is the survey for Seven Dooms for Sandpoint and here are the raw results. Anyone who would be willing to fill it out who is playing or running the campaign, it would be much appreciated!
Here is the reddit thread with all the surveys / raw results for those interested.
In the interest of answering my "What AP should I play next?" questions and thinking that others might have a similar question, I had put together a series of surveys that I posted on Reddit related to every released AP (that has been out long enough for groups to have played it).
I thought to share it here, since others may have interest in both participating and benefiting from the results. If anyone wants to contribute it would be much appreciated!
I also plan to share the individual queries to their respective boards.
The room was quiet for a minute as people searched. Then suddenly, a two tiny arrows flew from the mountain and into Fain's torso 4 damage. Standing further up the mountain, were the little men.
@Luk Luk: I think you missed the check your PMs memo (or misunderstood)... :p Oh well
"What?" The Baron retorted angrily as he began to descend the rope ladder, "You would have me stay up here while..." However, the conversation slowed him just enough. He had barely climbed more than a few rungs when a large creature came crashing out through the bushes and towards the rope ladder. The creature was large, with a striped back and moved quickly. In leaped at Thrym with its sharp teeth, but he reacted just in time to deflect the assault with his shield. It seemed that the creature's eyes were fixated on the baron and Thrym was a mere after thought. As it jumped back slightly from the failed attack, it was caught briefly by a glimmer of moonlight and those on the ground saw enough of the creature to question that this perhaps was not a tiger at all.
The "Tiger". Thrym and Vard got a proper look at it and are close enough to attack without penalty or knowledge check it. Everyone up in the trees cannot see it clearly and will need a light source or will face concealment penalties.
Unless I hear other plans, I will assume everyone manages to get up the tree with take 10. Thrym, Fain, Luk Luk in one tree. Vard, Alenka and the Baron in the other. Looking to move things forward by tomorrow morning at the latest. @Thrym: I'm sure you could get a better or several ropes.
"Here. Catch!" The baron shouts, as he tossed up a light crossbow and set of bolts to Thrym.
I'll give a little more time for Jenni and Thrym to post, since its the weekend and its a fairly dangerous combat to start skipping two of your front liners.
While we wait...some fun facts about deadly sins from someone who is very bored at work?
Pride and Wrath were the most common banes at 35% and 30% respectively. Envy, Gluttony and Sloth were not chosen (unless I missed someone... which is very possible).
Sloth was by far the most chosen boon, but each of the seven deadly sins was chosen by at least one person.
I think things also got kind of quiet because this thing fell of the first few pages of the recruitment forum. So I guess at least all the worry probably had the positive effect of bumping the recruitment thread, lol.
Yeah, I know about that. I posted another link a few posts down from there. Here it is again.
Ah. Whoops. Yeah, I didn't see that post until just now and you beat me to editing.
GM - Goblin Mayhem wrote:
Anyway, I'm not too concerned with the party composition, since I'm using the 25 point buy and having five players instead of four. Having a character with the same class, combat-orientation, and same faithful follower status would put you more in the direct competition area, though. I'm more concerned with picking five interesting characters and faithful players before turning to party composition. Should the party balance truly be skewed, the players and I can discuss what to do about it then.
That's fair. I will still submit the character, since there's no guarantee either of us would even be selected and I do really want to play her. However, I am going to rebuild her to be a frontliner, so that they are differentiated a bit more.
@GM/O Great Goblin Overlord: I have a question about how much party composition is going to influence your selection. My first thought was bring in of my characters from a Jade Regent PbP that I loved RPing, but the GM disappeared almost immediately. However, that character is a Erastil paladin archer, which I realize is almost is an almost identical build to another submission.
I'm thinking I might modify her to be a bit more melee oriented, to differentiate the two submissions and not step on toes. But, I was curious in general if two similar classes would be in direct competition or if you are just looking for your five favorite submissions (and if that ended up being two paladins of Erastil, hey at least we'd probably get along).
Also, fyi, your 5 minute background link is just pointing back to the recruitment thread... ;)
In the meanwhile, I have found one other player - welcome to ElenionAncalima! We'll work out a way to add her to the party once you're done with the goblins.
Meant to post this yesterday...but life intervened...
@Cithembi:
Very cool. You might have actually given me a reason to use the feature to change the pic you see for someone's profile from that chrome extension. I'll have to remember when I get home.
@GM:
If I've learned anything from this game its that Swashbucklers are tricky to play via Play By Post, since they have a lot of after the roll, but before the result type abilities. I don't know that we ever re-reviewed the deals I had made with Frosty, so that's probably my fault.
Charmed Life:
-This has to be used before the roll is made and adds my charisma (+3) to any save. In general, we had agreed to just go ahead and use it if I ever needed to roll a save. I would say that applies even moreso now that I also have the mythic pool to play with.
Parry and Riposte:
-If I want to use it I put the parry roll, riposte roll and damage roll in a spoiler. If someone attacks me it activates. Parry is a swift action that uses a panache. Riposte is an attack of opportunity that I can only take if I still have Panache (I do have Combat Reflexes).
General:
-Lots of my abilities (parrying, intimidating as a swift, doubling precision damage, mythic stuff) are swift actions. I am trying to be really careful about not doubling up in a round, but feel free to call me out if I get sloppy.
-I get Panache back if I deal a final blow or land a crit, so please let me know when that happens if I don't have max Panache
-Sorry for my class being a pain in the ass...
Also, regarding the Enduring Stoicism trait, I'm not sure if Angie is married to it yet (Pugnacious would fit her quite well). That being said, my 'rule' of not picking the same campaign trait was mostly to force you into different character concepts and avoiding all of you picking a single trait because it has awesome bonuses (even if I'm pretty sure none of you are min/maxers)... I'd sooner allow you to double on a trait before making you remake a well done backround.
Hmm. That changes things. I had kind of assumed the background was not going to be useable, which was making me more inclined to throw out the character and reuse it at a later time. If the backstory is still usable, I might actually try to just work with what I have and maybe try to morph the Mesmerist a little bit. Maybe delve deeper into the archetypes.
As for minmaxing, I have played exactly two minmaxed characters in my gaming career. One because the GM kept telling us that if we didn't we would die because his NPCs were so strong (spoiler alert: They were not that strong). The second time was a build that was just supposed to be a thought experiment, but the (different) GM really wanted to see it in a real game. Personally, I didn't find either game very fun. One shot killing everything gets really old, really fast. I'm at that weird stage in my gaming experience where, particularly in PbP, I kind of enjoy writing the posts where my character fails as much, if not more that I enjoy my successes. Its almost like those are the moments where the character feels the most human and real.
Anyway, I guess I'll post my tentative background for now, but I may make changes/additions/removals depending on how my build changes. I tried to make some things kind of vague and unclear, due to the whole amnesia thing. Let me know if its too vague.
Mira Tullian - 10 Minute Background:
Step 1 (Concepts):
1. Stressful Childhood: While Mira has scattered happy memories of growing up, the primary emotion she remembers feeling as a child is stress. At a very young age, she remembers her father not being around, though her memory on whether he died or just left is unclear. However, what she does remember is her mother not handling his absence well and seeming to be in a constant state of anxiety, with causes ranging from reasonable concerns, like worrying how to provide for them, to seemingly trivial issues like whether she had accidently offended the mailman.
2. Calm Outward Demeanor: Never wanting her own anxieties to trigger her mother’s, Mira became very practiced at hiding her emotional state and calming down people who are in a state of panic. In a crisis she often seems calm, cool and disaffected. However, this is mostly a façade. She still gets scared and anxious, but keeps it deeply hidden, not wanting to make a bad situation worse.
3. Left Home At Some Point: While her memories of living with her mother are the strongest she currently has, she does have a few recollections of her later life and she feels like her mother isn’t around for those. However, for the life of her she can’t remember why. Given that her mother is not particularly apt at taking care of herself, this is causing Mira a fair amount of anxiety at the campaign start.
4. Protective: Mira is so seemingly nonplussed in times of chaos, that it is common for people to assume that she is apathetic. However, she actually cares far more that she lets on. In particular she is extremely protective of those she views as vulnerable, particularly emotionally. One of her few non-childhood memories involve a person who she was tasked with helping or protecting. Like with her mother, she can’t really remember why she was helping them or where they are now and it’s leaving her with a guilty and anxious feeling.
5. Dislikes Conflict: Mira first instinct when conflict arises is to try and calmly diffuse the situation. If a person proves too stubborn or erratic to be talking down, her next step is usually to try manipulation or trickery. Violence is usually her last resort, as it tends to lead to more chaos.
Step 2 (Goals):
1. Her primary goal starting out would be to try and regain her memories. She would absolutely hate the loss of control of her mental state.
2. More specifically, she would want to figure out what happened to her mother and this other person she was helping who she feels was important somehow.
Step 3 (Secrets):
1. Known: She is convinced that this mystery person she was supposed to help is somehow related to the current predicament. However, her instinct is to keep this to herself, as she is embarrassed that she can’t remember much more and feels guilty that she might somehow be responsible for the things that are happening.
2. Unknown: Her memories of the mystery person are muddled up. She is right that she was trying to help someone and she is right that remembering him or her is important. However, the person was actually manipulating her. (See Step 4)
Step 4 (Connections):
1. Mira still has strong positive memories of her mother, even if her childhood was stressful. She would like to know what happened to her.
2. As stated above, there is a mystery person that Mira feels she was supposed to be helping, though the details are unclear.
3. Mira also has vague recollections of some person that was out to get her and suspects they were involved in her being put in the asylum somehow (whether or not they actually were). What she doesn’t realize is that the person she was helping and the person who was out to get her is the same.
Step 5 (Quirks):
1. Mira usually speaks with a slow, calm, almost hypnotic tone. Her posture seems relaxed and she tends to saunter when she walks.
2. She almost never says exactly what is on her mind. Her words tend to be carefully calculated before they are spoken.
3. At first glance there are no cracks in Mira’s calm. However, a careful observer might notice that in times of high stress she has subtle ticks, like running a coin between her fingers or tapping gently on a table.
Step 5 (Fears):
1. Mira’s main fear is fear itself. She has a deeply seeded belief that if she doesn’t stay calm at all times she will cause others to panic and chaos will ensue. As a result of this fear, she is particularly scared of any magic being used on her that would affect mind or exerts control. Creatures capable of possession particularly scare her.
2. While not as strong, Mira is somewhat afraid of mindlessly violent entities. Essentially anything set on hurting her that can’t be talked to.
For my own fears, I have a lot of minor ones, but not a lot of major ones. I guess by biggest one (or at least the one in my head since I have been doing some hikes on vacation) is falling off of something very high, like a cliff or a building. It’s particularly strong if it’s windy out.
@Cerio: Nice background. Got kind of disturbing there by the end, but I guess that's the idea ;). I don't know why but the beginning made me think of Full Metal Alchemist for some reason.
@Alenka: I like yours too. It's funny though, I am in a campaign with another Vivisectionist alchemist with a really similar backstory. I know from playing with him the weird obsession with animal/human hybrids can lead to some interesting RP.
That being said, if you are looking for another class, I'd point you to an oracle or a shaman, since it will give the group a more potent healing capacity as well as a full-caster.
I was afraid you'd say that, haha. I'm at a point with my home games where if I never play another Oracle or Cleric it would still be too soon... ;p
Cerio Dreswitch wrote:
Welcome Elenion! I also play with you in Reign of Winter--it's nice to see you in another game :). Don't feel like you have to scrap your character right away. It's true mesmerist and spiritualist are similar--both are 3/4 bab, 6th level spontaneous casters, and we're both Charisma-based. But there may yet be room for both of us. For one thing, my spells will mostly be necromancy, while as I understand Mesmerist uses a lot of illusion/enchantment. Diplomacy and Bluff could indeed be your focus. While I currently have a +6/+8 respectively, these are mostly just consequences of my ability scores and feat/traits. I don't plan to build around either or increase them much beyond what I'm doing. As I wrote above in my concept summary, I'm mostly going to be intimidating (taking Dazzling Display in a few levels) and casting necromancy debuff spells while my phantom beats things up. I'll also keep the cure spells and some other utility spells handy.
Mesmerist can be built to be a melee class with Str/Cha and feats like vital strike, power attack, plus painful stare. See this guide for more ideas.
Hey, good to be playing with you too. I actually have seen the guide, thanks though and I was planning on having a mild melee orientation.
As for other overlap, I'd be more than happy to ditch any kind of Intimidate build plans. Intimidate plus Hypnotic Stare is a powerful combo, but if you are already intimidating, I would gladly accept the synergy and skip to the staring and chuckling as they attempt to make their will save. ;) Its more an issue of if I'm chucking out debuff spells, I don't want a) Make you feel I am stepping on toes b) Make our GM feel like his encounters are getting too gimped by the pair of us.
Then there is my second problem, that I based my backstory on an unavailable trait (At least I am assuming that the one PC per trait thing was pretty strict, since it might have plot impact down the road). So that also playing a bit into my "Goshdarnit, time to start over" mindset.
So all in all, job poorly done and no one to blame but myself XD. At the end of the day, there are worse ways to spend a long car ride and I'm sure I'll figure something out. I'm just too tired too think that much right now (probably from said car ride) ;)
Hmm...I might need to start from the drawing board...I'm almost through a five hour car ride on which I got over excited and started my character without thoroughly reading everything. Now I have:
A) An entire backstory based on the Enduring Stoicism trait, which I just realize was already claimed.
B) A debuffing build that also uses Intimidate.
*Facepalm*
If overlap is a big concern, I think I'm just better off scrapping the Mesmerist, because while I could ditch the intimidation part of my build with no tears shed, debuffing and control are the heart and soul of the class, so it really hard to avoid those options and still have an effective character.
What gaps do we have at this point if I'm looking at other options?
Lots of information to read over and process. I'm on vacation now, so I might be a little slow in the discussion til Wednesday. As for what to play, I'd have to think about it. I've been kind of wanting to play a Mesmerist, either regular or Enigma (mostly so I can do a lot of this), so I might lean towards that.
On a side note, I liked that excel file with the crunch (I made a copy for myself)
Spoiler'd for off-topic, but contains warning for using the sheet:
Glad you liked the sheet. But you might not want to copy that one. I made some mods to the functions to account for the 2 bonus skill point per level, toughness and the oracle mystery skills, which may cause trouble on reuse.
However, if you use it I will give you fair warning. It was a pet project that I have yet to share publicly, because I am still testing it out with my home games. The google doc version is particularly unstable, because I just uploaded it for this game so I could share it. I've already noticed the dropdown validations don't work, which is dangerous because the calculations depend on having the correct values in those fields. The excel version is much more stable, but may still have bugs.
I think I skipped over it before because the name didn't seem like something that fit my character. However on a closer read, the description is quite appropriate for someone who spent some time pretending her healing powers still come from Mitra:
You are adept at disguising your true talents.
Never knew about that trait rule. Guess you learn something new everyday. I'll look for a replacement on the PRD when I get home (or if I get a free moment at work).
Here is my character sheet. I can move the information over to an alias if I get selected.
Background:
As a young child, one of Cecelia’s teachers once remarked to her parents that her best trait was her loyalty. Time and time again, she demonstrated her loyalty to her friends, her parents, her country and her faith. Yet, there was one person that Cecelia was more loyal to than any other, her twin brother Cedric. It wasn’t always easy being loyal to Cedric. He was always in trouble in one way or another, from skipping school to pickpocketing from the other children. However, no matter how much Cecelia disliked trouble and dishonesty, she would always cover for him.
As they grew older, Cecelia joined the Mitran church as a paladin and healer, while Cedric graduated from schoolyard mischief to criminal activity. Much to Cecelia’s sadness, a distance grew between her and brother. He became distrustful of her relationship to the church and resentful of their parents’ constant remarks that he should be more like his sister. For nearly two years she didn’t hear from Cedric. Then, one dark winter night, Cedric showed up at her door with tears streaming down his face and fear in his eyes, saying those all too familiar words from their childhood, “Cecelia…You have to help me!” With pleading eyes he told her that the books and notes he was carrying needed to be hidden. Cecelia tried to get more information, begging him to stay with her, so she could help him. However, all she got was a tearful apology and a long embrace before he disappeared into the snow.
The next time Cecelia saw her brother, he was screaming out for her help as he burned on a Mitran pyre. She screamed and fought against the priests, her so-called friends and brethren, who were now holding her back from saving the person she loved most. Once the fire was quelled, the head priest took her aside and suggested that she take some time off.
Alone in her home, Cecelia initially searched for comfort and clarity in her prayers to Mitra. However, the experience had left her so traumatized that doubt and anger crept into her mind. After days of weeping, while barely eating or sleeping, she hit rock bottom. Crying out into the night, she renounced Mitra and all who follow him. Feeling her divine powers being stripped from her, she began screaming every curse she could at the god who killed her brother, until she finally got the attention she was seeking. In a flash of light, something cursed back, blinding Cecelia and knocking her to the floor.
Defeated and broken, she laid there in total darkness, until she started hearing whispered words of vengeance in her mind. Slowly she felt the darkness receding from her eyes. Though most of the room was still hazy, she could see the floor with perfect clarity, as if something beneath was calling to her. Lifting up the floorboard, she pulled out the books she had hidden for Cedric and began reading. The more she read, the closer she felt to her lost brother and the more she found peace and clarity she was searching for. She felt some of her divine powers returning in a new unfamiliar form, as the whispers in her mind grew louder and louder. Finally she heard a clear voice in her head. “Return to the church. Be our spy…But, have patience. Our servants will find you. Then you will have your retribution.”
Personality and Motivation:
Remaining within the church has been difficult for Cecelia. She has been forced to hide the depths of her hatred for Mitra, the other priests and even her own parents, who have thoroughly disavowed their dead son. She survived by adopting a morose demeanor, taking advantage of the fact that people were uncomfortable asking about her brother and the vision troubles that have plagued her since her sabbatical. However, underneath her sorrow, is a passionately angry young woman, desperately waiting on a promise of revenge from forces she doesn’t fully comprehend. There is also a woman who, though sociable by nature, has been isolated for a very long time. It is not just the chance of revenge that she is waiting for, but also the promise of other likeminded individuals and an end to her loneliness. This vulnerability has made Cecelia particularly susceptible to manipulation by dark forces.
Posting Examples:
I have been taking a bit of a break from PbP games, after getting a little discouraged by games that died out. However, I am hoping to jump back in again and am impressed by how long lasting this game. Below are some of my posting example.
Awkward first impressions Starting to understand one another
These are some posts from conversations I had with another player in a Jade Regent game. I was playing a shy, but good hearted paladin who had a rather interesting relationship with the non-too-smart and very flirtatious half-orc fighter. The game ended pretty early, due to the GM (and replacement GM) disappearing, but the interactions between these two characters were really fun to RP, while it lasted.
Sulking is a free action
This is another RP example from a game that was dwindling down. This was my attempt to keep things active with a mildly humorous post, as well as offer a little more development for my character.
Unseen enemies
This is combat example where my character didn't have a lot of options to contribute, but I tried to keep things rolling on.
Considering creating a character, since I have had a concept for a villainous character that's been burning in the back of my brain. However, I have two questions.
1. How would you feel about an evil Oracle of Life? The character concept I have is someone who was once a pretty good person, but fell hard and it seems like the group would do well with a solid healer. However, the concept could easily be changed to just about any other divine class, if evil life oracle seems like too much cheese.
2. I feel obliged to reveal that I am familiar with the campaign and have run a table through Call Forth Darkness. I'd like to think that I can separate any meta-knowledge easily enough. However, I understand if this is a deal breaker.
One more update. Someone on Reddit (VestOfHolding), created a program to put the survey results side by side for each AP. I don't think it updates automatically. However, it should stay at least somewhat up to date.
My personal guess is that it's a combination of both. For it do do as well as it has, it must be pretty good. However, I agree with CorvusMask that it newness might be inflating it slightly.
Also worth mentioning, it got totally screwed with regards to % that reached the 6th book. That I am positive was caused by its age.
Did you consider the option of people in the process of playing an AP, but not being finished yet?
Yeah, that was a bit of a goof. I really intended that question to only be answered by people who stopped playing. However, I realized in retrospect the wording wasn't really clear and left it open to people who are still running through the game.
Any chance you could set up a more helpful graph comparing the different APs in different respects? It'd be really interesting to see how they stack up against each other. (And as is, it's kind of hard to navigate through all of that information...)
Unfortunately there is not an easy way to manipulate the data into side by side info for each AP. However, once responses stagnate and I have some time I do want to go through manually and calculate some of the comparisons.
Speaking of which, thanks for the data above. Interesting stuff.
I am actually not super surprised at how divisive Wrath of the Righteous is. I feel like Mythic rules and high power games are one of those love it or hate it type things.
Thanks to everyone who responded to the survey. To reply to a few questions/comments:
CorvusMask wrote:
I personally think though that roleplaying potential's answers are mostly about players' and gm's ability and not really the AP. I mean, sure, if adventure is only combat and no tips on how characters behave are given to GM then yeah roleplaying is hard and requires ton of work, but players can't know that without reading the AP. So while player can answer "Yeah this AP had ton of roleplaying" or "This AP had none of roleplaying", that answer can't be accurate if they haven't read the AP since they don't know how much stuff GM added or removed.
This is a fair concern and I would agree that RP is at the mercy of the GM's skill to a degree. That being said, I do believe that some adventure paths offer better opportunities for RP than others. Most of the questions in this survey are subjective in nature. The hope is that with enough answers the data normalizes around the most common experience.
Gratz wrote:
You should probably post your survey (which is a great initiative in my opinion) to other media as well.
This is a question, which shows up time and time again, but I feel that you need to add some short descriptions of the setting, if you want it to be useful to other people. I mean for example, what use is it to me that Iron Gods seems to have a great plot, if you can't get behind the whole sci-fi technology in the setting.
So far I have posted here and Reddit. I know that it was shared on Facebook as well. Any other medias which you would recommend? As for the descriptions, I am somewhat limited by the fact I actually haven't played most of these APs (thus my personal interest in this data). However, I can add the Paizo AP descriptions if that would be helpful.
Meraki wrote:
Are you planning on continuing it for future APs?
For now I wanted to focus on APs that have all six books released. However, if interest remains I will add the new paths as they are completed. However, I may consider a new survey for the new paths, since it would be a little tedious (and not good data) to force people to fill the survey out again just to answer questions about the new path.
matt bublitz wrote:
Was I the only one hoping for the old Dungeon magazine paths to be included? I loved Shackled City and Age of Worms was pretty mega; only Savage Tides was meh for us.
Oops sorry. At the risk of having to turn in my gamer card, I must admit that I know very little about those paths beyond hearing their names mentioned from time to time.
I created a survey about the different Paizo Adventure Paths. The idea was based on a discussion on Reddit that lots of posters come to message boards asking "What is the best AP for X?" and it might be nice to have some data that people could look at.
I figured I would share the survey here because:
a) The more answers, the better the data
b) People here might be interested in the results too
Your formula blissfully ignores the 97% of the time that the staff doesn't produce gems, where the effects range from bizarre to outright dangerous. The formula doesn't account for all the variables that those random effect would introduce. Are they really going to be able to use the wand every six seconds when they are suddenly growing and shrinking, getting effected by slow and fireballs are randomly shooting everywhere? More importantly, followers aren't mindless slaves. Realistically, they are going to make it about a minute before not wanting to do this anymore. Even if you take away all the side-effects, its still a monotonous task to do for eight hours a day.
I wouldn't try to convince him at all for your own sake too. He might allow it just to screw you over. Believe me, he has a lot of options.
