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So a supernatural ability is still counted "as a spell" ?


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Hi all

So Improvised weapons. A little background: my plan was to make a wrestler (WWE style) to go crazy in the Pathfinder world (he's just got kicked out of The Guard) and really wants to (potentially) use opponents or corpses as weapons inbetween his unarmed fighting (I am thinking Barbarian Brutal Pugilist and Monk Martial Artist).

***EDIT: I should also add, I'm after this for Pathfinder Society***

So:

1) Can you use a weapon (eg a greatsword) as an improvised weapon?
RAW I would say yes. It would be a "quarterstaff" (I guess) and do D6 bludgeoning damage.
So I'd say - yes.

2) Can you get MW Improvised weapons?
RAW - A masterwork item, is a great item, but not fighting (except in certain circumstances... maybe?) so I'd say no. Unless you pay extra. But even then it gets confusing, a MW weapon is designed for fighting, so if an improvised weapon is made to act as good weapon... it would BE a weapon, not an improvised weapon... And even a MW weapon being used as improvised, you're not using it properly so to me, wouldn't get the MW quality.
So I'd say - no.

3) Magic improvised weapons?
This makes more sense than masterwork (which partly confuses it if you can't really have MW improvised) but we're in a magical world. Why not? And a magical weapon being used AS a magical improved weapon, is still magical.
So I'd say - yes.

4) So can you use creatures?
RAW - doesn't say you can't, but also doesn't go into rules - ideally you'd need to grapple them first, to use them as a weapon (and then it's not a grapple 'action'). The fact they have this ability: "Body Bludgeon (Ex)" suggests it's for 'barbarians only'.
- Maybe there is an option if you were to use the -20 to grapple to grapple an opponent, but not be grappled yourself. I may allow this, but at -20 it's barely going to ever happen!
So I'd say - no idea? Yes at -20? Or you need to be a barbarian with that ability.

5)If not alive, how about a corpse/unconscious?
Not really anything saying you can't. Though as weapons go, I would guess the weight is so much more than weapons, bodies would count as a number of sizes more than the body. Eg a small body counts as a large or huge weapon? Maybe?
So I'd say - yes - but how to work it?

6)How would the Lesser Hurling rage power work with these?
I read this as throwing unconscious/non living people.
Hurling, Lesser (Ex)
Benefit: As a full-round action while raging, the barbarian can lift and hurl an object up to one size category smaller than herself with both hands or two size categories smaller with one hand as an improvised weapon with a range increment of 10 feet. This inflicts damage as a falling object plus the barbarian’s Strength bonus. This damage is halved if the object is not made of stone, metal, or similar material. This is a ranged touch attack, and the target may attempt a Reflex save (DC 10 + 1/2 the barbarian’s level + the barbarian’s Strength modifier) for half damage. The barbarian may apply Power Attack to this attack as a one- or two-handed weapon, as appropriate.

Anyone know any links to official rulings on any of this? I checked out a few threads and had a few answers and ideas, but seem to want to get into more.

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Hello all.

So I've been reading around and have a few questions I've not been able to track down the answers to:

Easiest to start with and example, you've played a 4th level pre-gen and assigned it to character A (to be picked up at 4th level). At level two, character A dies.
1) Does this mean you lose the scenario? As character A can't use it? (And you can't play it again!)
2) Can you transfer it to another character?
3) And you can't raise the character (as won't have the money or the PP)

4) Another observation is, as you can only play a scenario once, if it's two tier and you play the lower tier, you don't get the higher tier items. And never can? So it's worth playing the higher tiers whenever possible to give you access to the items!

Thanks. Sure I'll have more soon ;)