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I know that archery kills more faster than TWF but I am playing a TWF ranger because I want to for the fun of it. I do want to make sure that I stay useful though. The character leveled to three at the end of the last session, so it can not be changed at this point anyway. I just want to know if there is a more viable option at this level than PA, because even with double slice, I only get +1 damage on the off hand.

Weapon focus is good. I think power attack is wasted on TWF.

Hi I have a two handed ranger that just hit 3rd level. His current feats are Two-Weapon fighting and Double Slice(ranger bonus). I am thinking PA for third level feat but I want to make sure there are no better options at this point.

Half Orc
Infiltrator ranger FA animals +2NA

Str 19
Dex 17
Con 15
Int 10
Wis 16
Cha 13

Check out Treantmonk's Guide to Rangers. Its an amazing guide IMHO.

Also in the guide it says, and I am not telling you to change your character, that a archer ranger who takes out a greatsword does more damage on average than a TWF ranger and hits more often. And after doing a couple test runs with identical rangers, one taking archery, one taking TWF, the archery ranger just destroyed the TWF. In order for the TWF ranger to do the same amount of damage an Archery ranger does with a greatsword, he would need to hit with both hands for each time the Archery ranger hit. For example:

Ranger A is TWF with str 18 and now has TWF and Weapon Focus (a must for TWF). Attack Bonus +2 BAB, -2 TWF, +4 str, +1 WF. OK so he has an attack bonus of +5/+5. With shortswords (the norm in many rangers) 1d6+4/1d6+2 (2d6+6 if both hit.

Ranger B is Archery, so his feats are unimportant (Point-Blank Shot and Precise Shot for example). Str 18. OK so now his Attack Bonus is +2 BAB, +4 str. So a +6. With a greatsword he is getting 2d6+6 damage. The same amount of damage a TWF ranger has and he isn't even feated for it.

But again the choice is yours. I suggest reading that guide. It is amazing. Especially the switch hitter.

TheSideKick wrote:

oh and then ant haul will make you insane with the roleplay. i had a level 20 character that used a homebrew item of ant haul, lets just say i was throwing colossal creatures around like they were rag dolls lol.

How does ant hault help a grappler? Being able to carry more doesn't mean you'll be able to grapple or throw around bigger foes.

TheSideKick wrote:

oh and they have a post on the forums that explains what the missing tetori feats do.

http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderR PG/rules/tetoriBonusFeats&page=1#10

Those feat descriptions are rather lacking though, and not really easy to implement without a good GM.

Besides, how did you play a Tetori considering the missing feats? Swapped out to something else, or what?

TheSideKick wrote:

the tetori gets grab and constrict SA. that means you do not need to make a grapple cmb check to say you grapple. all you would need to do is spend one point of your ki pool and hit with a melee attack, which can be done as part of a flurry.

He won't play at 15th level, so constrict won't factor into it though.

In addition, the Tetori doesn't get Flurry of Blows, which is one of the major gripes with the archetype for me. If you can't grapple someone you feel rather... useless.

If you don't like that archetype. Take a look at the maneuver master. He can do all different types of maneuvers. And flurry of maneuvers.

Grab still requires a Combat Maneuver check. I just worry without massive bonuses to strength or size that I won't be able to keep up.

Yea I think the Tetori archetype is amazing now that I see it. With a full BAB and 18 strength at level 6 your grapple check will be +14 (+6 for BAB, +4 improved grapple and greater grapple, +4 strength). If you are enlarged it becomes +16 (+6 BAB, +4 feats, +5 strength, +1 size).

At level 6 that is amazing. There won't be anything you can't grapple at that level. Except maybe something with like 6 arms, lol.

Mind you, your AC will be lacking

leo1925 wrote:

ciretose wrote:

The bigger problem is the 15 minute day inherent in the AP that allows people to nova.

That.

After playing the entire AP (except the final battle) i have to say that Kingmaker is a very easy AP due to the 15 minute work day, even the "dungeon" like encounters aren't very lenghty and/or with enough encounters to burn enough resources.
Also the lack of magical opposition for the majority of AP isn't helping either.

I agree. If I ever run it again I will have to change a few things.

I am running the first part of the series right now with a group of 6. I scaled it to be about the same difficulty and exp value as the 4 group. Also I increased the random encounter chance by 15% initially and 5% each additional day. So initial entry to a hex was 30% chance to fight a random encounter and 45% the 1st night, 60% the second and so on. Also I didn't limit them to one random encounter a day. On top of that. I almost bumped the amount of suggested monsters up a die. So instead of 1 will-o-wisp it was 1d4 will-o-wisp. Instead of 1d4 bandits it was 1d6 bandits. There were times when the group battled a will-o-wisp and then were attacked by a werewolf as they were halfway through the night. Causing them to fail to get 8 hours of rest. Meaning the caster could not rebuild their spells, and the paladin couldn't rebuild his abilities. It causes some hard times for the PCs but nothing they can't handle with the right tactics and some good old epic dice rolls.

As for the Paladin smite evil issue, change the BBEG to a BBNG. Its been said several times already, because its the best way to fix it. No evil, no smite evil. A neutral character can do evil actions and not be evil himself. He may even be "good" using evil/neutral NPCs as a "end justifies the means". With a little thought and creativity you could do just about anything to limit the paladins smite power. Charisma drain comes to mind to reduce attack bonus and deflection bonus. Add a secondary little bad evil guy to your big bad neutral guy who can do charisma drain. Now the paladin is smiting the little guy who is draining his charisma as he fights.

DC 15 will save every single time they take damage or they turn into a wolf under your control until they rest for 8 hours or the next sunrise, whichever comes first. It's also likely it's chaotic evil and will attack its weakest allies immediately.

Soooooo... yeah.

Pretty hard to work around that.

Yea I am not doing the damage part. As there is a lot of random encounters. I am playing it as only the full moon causes them to change, or in the case of the barb within those 5 days raging. Also, do you think the barbarian would not attack the other afflicted PCs when/if he transformed while raging. I think he would be able to sense their affliction while in hybrid/werewolf form.

Or 1 Will o' wisp against a first level party ;)

My group is a group of 6 and are very good at tactics (except the paladin but we won't get into that right now). They are all level 2, have defeated a will-o-wisp, just barely, and 2 werewolves. I had planned to raise the victim of the werewolves in the middle of the battle as a newborn werewolf but the alchemist torched his body before he could transform. The paladin may have a problem seeing as he is the least RPing of the group and doesn't take the time to work out anything other than combat. They ran into a group of 3 trolls playing "catch" with a boulder in the narlmarches but decided it was best to walk around. I've made it easy for them to stay alive in the outrages random rolls.

Anyways, thanks a lot for the fresh eyes.

I was looking at the Tetori and it kind of made me want to make a grappling character who could bodyslam giants. So I'm wondering what people think of the different grappling archetypes, or even if you need to specialize in it?

It seems to me that the Tetori is great on grappling casty types, but doesn't have much to fall back on if grappling isn't viaable (huge size, super strong, acid skin, etc)

Maneuver Master can eventually pin someone with a standard action, and can fall back on other maneuver's if need be, but there lack of specialization makes them a bit weak at grappling.

Brutal Pugilist has full BAB, lots of HP's, and rage powers (strength surge, Superstition, Animal Fury) but isn't nearly as good at grappling as the two monks (barring Str Surge which for a long time is once a rage).

Unarmed Fighter seems fine, but not very exciting (which is my issue with anything Fighter Class).

Druid can turn into a mastodon and trunk slam things, but would be a bit feat tight, but they have the size advantage.

My first question is what level are you starting at and what level do you expect to get to?

When it comes to combat maneuvers I slightly lean towards monks because they are just awesome at them. They can do it all. At level 3rd they get full BAB progression for flurry and combat maneuvers. Add in a high strength and they can grapple just about anything. Add in the fact that you can get the improved grapple as a free feat and then qualify for greater grapple later on (level 8). You can also flurry while grappling as a full attack. At level 10 you can get medusa's wrath (without meeting reqs), which allows you to get two, count them two, additional unarmed strikes against a dazed, flat-footed, paralyzed, staggered, stunned, or unconscious foe. So first attack of a flurry is a stunning fist (at that point you are doing flurry at +10/+10/+5/+5) and then another two attacks at +10/+10 for a total of +10/+10/+5/+5/+10/+10. At damage of 1d10+str. Enough said

Ok guys, here is my dilemma, my group was randomly attacked by a couple werewolves. The wizard and barbarian were bitten by the first werewolf and both failed their saves. Then it came to the tricky part. The paladin, who is only level 2 so does not have immunity to diseases was also bitten and failed his save. Do I penalize him for transforming on the full moon? And also, the group and I decided that now that he is afflicted he will stay afflicted until the curse is removed. Regardless of if he becomes immune to diseases and such later on.

Secondly, I want to add a little craziness to the barbarians rage. I figure that since raging is releasing the primal power and anger inside of the PC, then there is a chance that raging will induce a transformation (only at night and within a couple days before or after the full moon say 2 days before and 2 days after). Do you think that is going too far with the lycanthropy?

Any help will be greatly appreciated