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Sorry I don't have time to read the whole thread, so if my comment is redundant, please forgive me.

1- Yeah you have a frikin evil Paladin there who has lost his 'inhood :D

2- Detect evil won't detect any evil under 5th level, unless that creature is about to OR in the act of committing an evil act.

3- Paladin will not just kill anyone whom they detect as evil, while walking don the street (he'd never get sleep for one-thing - And -
It would be quite funny if he ran this character through pfs 1st steps, because he would detect evil on the Para-Countessa of Cheliax :)

4- On a side note, if you had a Porthole to Abyss open, with a view to a DemonPrinces private den.., A low level Paladin 'detecting evil' on him would have to make a huge save to NOT go into SHOCK - as per spell description as I recall (always fun: )

Paladin's stand by a strict moral code (which is helpful to have written out by the character).
While a Paladin will not just attack anyone radiating evil in the street, he can have a conversation of redemption with them.
Paladin's should always react to 'detect evil' within a town, for it usually represents an evil act 'about' to be committed: Justy is strolling down the street scanning for E-V-I-L.., Hello Mr. Baker, Hello Mr. Fishmonger, Hello... -BING-Bing-Bing!!! GOLY GEE Batman Mr. Baker is suddenly radiating evil, as he produces a knife to wield against that wife-covetting Fishmonger!
Now the Paladin can try to prevent an evil act from happening, and save the soul of the distraught Baker ;)

Paladin's can be quite fun to play, but u as the GM too, have to be careful of what positions you get him into. If he's going to be stupid, then it's not your fault - lol

Paladin's adhere strictly to THEIR own moral code, law and goodness in this order: Good/Law.
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• A Paladin walking through an mostly evil city, is already in trouble on many levels.
He can see lots of 'evil' going on, and in dismay realizes there is little he can do at the moment.
• He spots smugglers freeing slaves, thus breaking one of the few laws within the forsaken town. He's glad, it's not one of his laws because he dislikes slavery with a passion, and looks the other way.
• He spots a thug about to club some one from behind, and he 'accidentally' sticks out his foot to trip the ruffian, and then continues on his way...
--- The Paladin has completed his mission of scouting out the town without getting himself or any party members killed - lol --

Finally a paladin doesn't have to sound like a wuss - I've played some very intimidating 'Clint-Eastwood' sounding paladin's. I've also played Justy the Justifier who was a very prim-'proper' totally gay paladin. They all had their own Moral Codes of 'good' 'law' and 'honor' :D

Thought "Alternate Racial Trait" isn't legal in PFS?

Never mind, found it :D

He's got a 12 Int (genius in the land of barbarians lol).

He could certainly toss a weapon as a primary attack, followed by a witch hair trip of some sort - :D

But a better bet, I suppose, might be for that intelligent fighter archtype :-)

And I think that my psychotic CN barbarian (Demon Focker) who has a wild head-dress, may have to take a level of witch, just to make him look that much more outlandish. lol

My daughter just started playing a witch, and she just LOVES her hair :D

WITCH: Duh! Don't tell me you've never heard of hair bows before.

:D

Sounds solid by the rules to me!

You could try to argue that realistically hair is made of dead cells and therefore not an extension of your body to transfer the magic, but that's just splitting hairs.

Actually, all the outer layer skin-cells of your hand are dead cells too, so that argument doesn't really hold up either....

Ulfen Wulf Reinn Sounds like a great name for a new Rockin-Bard-Band though - lol

Good thread, and yeah it does get a bit confusing.

Now can you buy items from the other PF books like Ultimate Magic, if you have the fame, but the item is NOT on your chronicle sheet??? or is that just for Core items?

-Thanks

This doesn't apply for PFS sanctioned play. Keep in mind, the book is not just written for sanctioned play, but also home play such as with Shattered Star AP. In sanctioned PFS play, a GM may not reward any free vanities. They must be purchased with PP.

Ah, and there lies the distinction.

Again, I don't think that applies to PFS play. You can't even reward equipment, how can you reward vanities? That information is for people using the Field Guide in their home games.

Are you sure? It is the Pathfinder Society Field Guide, so you can't get much more PFS than that. Are you saying it's for home campaigns that use PFS?

Then those Vanities would not be valid if they took there characters from the home game to a con... If I'm reading your response correctly?

If this player is disrupting the flow of the game with having his character perform these stealing actions, then those need to be dealt with out of character. Not by penalizing the character with some arbitrary or ambiguous definition of evil.

Exactly!

In-game character play is great, but bogging down game-play is bad news :D

We don't penalize a player for playing his character, unless he's monopolizing the game, and detracting a lot of time from the other players.

Is that from the Field Guide? I wouldn't assume that applies to PFS play.

Yes - Page 60.

It states that you may award Vanities, but not How to do so :?)

I'm really trying to understand where the disconnect lies here. Earlier I presented this syllogism:

Premise 1: Hurting people for your own pleasure is evil.
Premise 2: Stealing hurts people.
Conclusion: Stealing for your own pleasure is evil.

You obviously disagree with the conclusion. So which of the premises do you disagree with?

Sorry Ninja, I believe your logic to be flawed. And different ACTs in the name of a FACTION//Pathfinder-Society doesn't change it one way or another.

Stealing is a lot 'Less' 'evil' than torturing someone in the name of a Faction-Mission.

I had a good character that couldn't stomach what some factions demanded.

-So, Aladin (generic thief) blissfully goes around stealing things left and right. It may hurt some, and it certainly does NOT hurt some others.
-Aladin is ignorant of the ramifications of his theft - his own background gleens little of socio-economics in his mind.

If you say that stealing in itself for your self is an 'Evil' act... Then some of the Pathfinder-Factions are E-V-I-L.

So, no.., You may NOT penalize a thief in PFS for doing what thieves do.
After the scenario is over, any 'unused' stolen-booty gets crossed off the character sheet.

Nuf-said - lol

• "As a general rule, vanities cannot be purchased with gold,
but a GM can certainly use “free” vanities as rewards for
adventures if she wishes." •

So my question is: How exactly does one award a player who demonstrates excellent role-playing or team-work, a Vanity?

And how large a Vanity may I award? 1-3PP vanities for low-levels 3-5PP mid level, etc...?

Would I write the assigned Vanity on the Players' Cert, and then initial it as GM?

Has any of this been addressed in a FAQ?

-Thanks

Well, I can confirm that 1st level Ezren in the NPC Codex has Knowledge (Arcana, history, nature, planes), as well as spellcraft and two other trained skills.

So, please stop worrying and fretting over it and wait until the book comes out.

Sweet, I'm with Dragonmoon and Josh with: Some extra knowledge skills go a long way :!)

And thanks too Michael for the earlier PM-response about character xp.

Ahgmar the Summoner, Mightiest wizard of the three kingdoms continued to rip open dimensions, to bring in his forces form every direction as he raged war against Morthyn Deadstalker.

Deadstalker, the mightiest of all Necromancers smiled, as the light in his eyes reflected dead, and burning townspeople whose bodies reanimated with unholy energy. Now was the time to make everyone feel the power of the mightiest mage of all times...

Creatures from ancient times, worlds and dimensions wrought paths of destruction in their wake as the town of Caawul burned death and undeath.

The people pleaded to their gods, other gods, anyone or anything that would listen.

And something did hear their cries, for the two raging wizards vanished in what sounded like a whimsical puff of laught. And what was left of the Caawullyn rejoiced (as best the could...)

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Ahgmar started to stirred with searing pain in his head and his prone figure spasmed.
He remembered Morthyn's accursed Hell Knights taking the field of battle, as his ancient dragons apeard over Ahgmar's head too...
His heavy hand slapped the ground much harder than it should have while he lurched with more convulsions, and then he felt pain within his other head too.

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"Aaaaaghhh screamed Morthyn and his voiced echoed loudly in his. His voice???
His body spasmed and cursed in many languages simultaneously, as he tried to buffer the sound clubbing at his ears with his hands.
His right hand felt foreign to him, almost asleep shooting pins and needles. It hit his head too hard, and too fast. No not HIS head, for something was in the way. And his left hand belted his right ear awkwardly as more pain shot through him as he screamed once again in two deep voices.

The battle! He must still be in it, and so he focussed on it recalling his last memories. Ach, what spell had Morthyn last launched at him...? Of course the Xtra-Plannar Summoning of TalthinDos, Greatest summoner of the past Corstinion Age.!??
And he remembered the great spell he never knew, and he saw Dragons ripping through the gate over his head, as if he was staring at himself across the battlefield... And he could also see them much closer as he looked up and flung up his Shell of Demon Bones.
"What nightmare...!?"

"I don't know Shell of Demon Bones!" yelled Ahgmar and Morthyn through both their mouths... "But I do they stated in unison" a bit more quietly, as they both turned their large heads. It took a lot of effort because as one head tried to turn one way, it also had an impulse to turn in the other direction.

But finally the two mortal enemies once again faced one another up close and very personal.
Shock, rage, fear, blew through their aching heads as they tried to pummel one another with fists and curses, teeth, and head buts.

And then great laughter filled the hall of the great stone room that they laid in.
Bloody and bruised the Wizards stopped fighting long enough to realize that neither of them have cursed the other to this fate, as they with great effort and bewilderment sat up to realize what doom hath snared them.

Also in this room of black sandstone were two great 8x16' doors and a great gold framed 10x30' mirror in which the saw a great bloody bruised Ettin staring back at them.
It was somehow dressed as two different wizards with very familiar faces and the true horror burned within both their heads.

They were somehow cursed into the form of an Ettin. Two mortal enemies in the same body and Morthyn fainted, and the Ettin fell back down to the floor, Ahgmar cursing, as he felt a sharp pain shoot through Morthyn's unconscious head.

And before Ahgmar too lost consciousness, he once again heard whimsical laughter.

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I'm writing a story about these cursed wizards and would like some advice over the premise

Cursed Wizards

THANKS:!)

Ye-old Mirror of Opposition mounted upon an Anti-Paladins shield. That will give em a run for his money :D

Whats wrong with uploading it to Dropbox/Google Drive or imgur or some other image storing website and linking to it here?

What's wrong is that you have to keep hitting links which is just a pain.

It would be very nice to see pictures that are the subject of a topic WITHOUT having to continually hit links - lol

I too think it's a GREAT idea!

For those who don't want that... Just stay out of the Special Art and Special music section.

And I'm sure they'ed have more than enough volunteers to moderate content being submitted. It's really a win-win for everyone!

Chris Mortika wrote:

If legal copies of the material exist elsewhere at the table, I let d20pfsrd pass. I confiscate illegal (non-watermarked) hard copies from the book.

LOL no. You can say "Sorry, you can't use that at my table." You can even say, "You're a terrible person, you file-downloader, you, and you can leave my table." But you have neither the obligation nor the right to confiscate anything from anyone in this context.

Even if you're absolutely certain that someone's photocopy is illegal--I mean illegal, not "against the rules of organized play"--and unless you're a copyright lawyer or it says "LOL I DOWNLOADED THIS" on the paper you probably can't be entirely certain--you're just transferring it into your own possession by confiscating it, which as a private citizen is inadvisable at best and certainly not your legal right.

And if it's not illegal--again, illegal, not against the rules--then it might behoove you consider that GMing for Pathfinder Society doesn't make you anything other than a GM for Pathfinder Society. You have no right to interfere with other people's property.

Seriously, Chris, your posts amaze me sometimes. You're not a cop, you're not their boss, you're not their mom. (Well, you might be a cop, but I sure hope you aren't gaming while on duty.) It's not your place to tell players at your table what they are and aren't allowed to keep in their backpack.

Come no Patrick, no picking on Chris, who already amended that first statement... Chris did NOT take anyone stuff :D

That sounds kind of interesting.
Mysterious Death in the Dormitory :D

TClifford wrote:

Wow. After reading through 187 posts I am really really glad I never got into Pathfinder Society play. Last I checked this was a freaking game. Not some facist rule. If someone is doing something hinky....tell them it isn't going to happen. I understand there are rules, but man this is ridiculous.

This does not really reflect PFS "on the ground", so to speak. I have never seen a DM choose to make a scene out of a player's format of source material.

Cons might be another beast altogether, and this sort of draconican enforcement might happen. I guess you would have to be careful depending in whose table you landed at, since even if you had identified DMs you don't want to be seated with beforehand using the boards, you don't really have the ability to avoid playing with them

I have not seen evidence of GMs doing so either. Not in local games, nor at cons.

I would just like to take a moment to reiterate my recent point from the other day in regards to this topic.

Why you would like to close this thread Mike, is still beyond me. If you tire of it, just go to another thread. Discussion is good, and everyone seems to be quite civil.

Closing said thread would piss off some, and get others to start up a new thread of the same topic. Let people have their say, and move on at their own pace. Freedom of speech - lol

So what's better sCoreForge or PCGen?

PCGen run on Mac too?

Again, speaking for me alone. You bring me a Print of the Errata and I'll be fine. If I've my mini, looking up the FAQ is annoying but fine.

I still hold that if I'm Gming, and I need to know how feat X works (and I think you're making it up when you tell me) I need to see it. If you're asking me to look it up, or don't even know what book it's in, then I'll find it in the 'Big Book of stuff that doesn't work today.'

I concur, it's best when players have all there 'ducks lined up' and everyone is ready to play.

When play is constantly stopped to look things up, the game becomes a drag :P

I use http://www.trovetokens.com/pathfinder.html

It's decent. You can use it to generate a pdf on the fly, and it's great for generating a first level character.

If you want to save, and reload multiple characters, you need to pay your $7.00 for an access code.

So try it out, and see if it's what you are looking for. If you like it, you have a best bang for the buck - very reasonable :0)

I agree with daniel. His int is only slightly below normal, and he's very social and dashing. He's like a happy-go lucky frat-boy. His test scores never soar, but he brought his teacher an apple and a big smile.

This character should be a lot of fun to play.

And there are so many options in that Guild-build with race/class and such, that you can find many different ways to tweek him.

Have fun!!!

Splunge
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No, I'll have to go with a series of paintings, or maybe just a triptic.
(close to Firebeard's storyboards:)

The painting is also up to the painter.
So, he may be painting the scene of the character before and after as he/she envisions it.

Now this vision will certainly change by the time the game is over, so he'll most likely paint a new one when it's all over.

Go with a triptic. Painting of the character as he see's it, and maybe how he envisions it by 'the end'.

Then do the same for the middle panel roughly halfway through the campaign.

Then the last panel on the last day of the campaign, then compare all three panels.

Hope that input helps - lol

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...and sorry for your loss Conundrum.

Watch The Princess Bride. There are a few fight scenes with Inigo Montoya where there really aren't any AoO. However, there is a scene where four mooks run past Inigo Montoya in a hallway and he takes 4 attacks, one on each of them (and drops them all I might add).

GREAT analogy Bob!

Yes Aeon, The Fighter in the front is doing a great job cleaving goblins left and right, as he was trained to do!

"Drats, those bloody fleeing goblins ran away, and I only got one swing!!!
But that frikin-wiley Halfling Rogue just made short work of the rest as the ran past him!? What Special Training did he get ANYWAY!!!???"

"It was no problem to dispatch them Sir ArmoredGuy," explains the wiley Hobbit, "I've trained my special Combat Reflexes for years for just such openings!"

And that's it in a nutshell :D

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"you have killed my father, prepare to die"

Hmmm, well I wonder if individual pages ripped out of a book are allowed. It doesn't prove individual ownership but it does save on weight space.

*Carries on musing*

Oh, and that is quite cute too - lol

In re-reading this thread to refresh my head, - and -

The original post arose after I had GMed a game where a player brought a character that used seven or eight non-core sources copied from d20pfsrd. When I asked if she owned the books, she told me that she didn't. How should that situation be handled?

I'd have to ask myself why I stuck my nose into that in the first place.

I'll have to go with Bill Clinton on that one with "Don't ask, don't tell"

It's not going to help out you, the prospective player, PFS, or Paizo.

If Paizo thinks it's important, you will know when the black uniformed men goose-stepping down the hall with red P/P armbands come to the table and ask to see everyone's papers.

Make your table comfortable, pass out some chocolates, and have a great game.

You will thank yourself, and your players will thank you.

:D

Hope your thread has helped you realize your place within the world of PFS

And I agree with the last three posts too :D

Step one - stock the room with innocent victims: little children so cute that butter wouldn't melt work well, but anything flies as long as a) they obviously can't protect themselves, and b) it's obvious to the PCs that callously letting them die just so that our 'heroes' can swoop in and finish the BBEG quickly would be a very nasty thing to do. Assuming the PCs are good guys here, of course?

Step two - proceed to menace innocent victims. Constantly. Tie up the PCs' actions by forcing them into choosing between protecting the innocents, or going for the BBEG. That may well involve the PCs focusing on the BBEG's minions (the ones doing the menacing), but that's fine - minions are disposable assets, right? Constant environmental menace is also good (push the little ones off high places, that sort of thing...) - the PCs may be buffed up the whazoo to protect against falling or heat or acid or whatever, but poor little Suzi hanging on by her toenails to the edge of the plinth raised 100ft in the air with only a pool of acid (containing hungry acid-mutated piranha... with frickin' lasers on their heads...) to catch her? Not so much...

Make sure there's a goodly amount of innocents clustered around the BBEG too - tha whole 'human shield' thing may be evil but... he is a bad guy, right? Fireballing the BBEG may be fine... barbequing a dozen orphans at the same time? Try explaining that sort of 'friendly fire' to the heroic adventurers' union...

Heck, use your innocent victims as improvised missiles to hurl at the PCs: remember, their morality is the good guys' weakness, not your bad guy's!

... In short, be evil... and have fun doing it! :)

Oh, very good!!!

Dudeacles wrote:

But seriously, while we are on the subject, how does Slam stack up with DR?????

And is a monk attack, a Slam? What is the difference? I don't want to sound daft, but it could use a bit more explaining. -THANKS

1: Damage Reduction works the same way in regards to slam attacks as with any other form of natural attack. Most often, a slam attack would only be able to overcome DR/bludgeoning, but it could certainly overcome other types of DR depending on the monster's other abilities (for instance, a monster whose natural attacks count as lawful and evil would overcome DR/lawful and DR/evil with its slam attacks, in addition to DR/bludgeoning).

2: No, a monk's attack is an Unarmed Strike. There are several differences; one difference is that as it counts as a regular weapon, a monk gets iterative attacks with it for having a BAB of +6 or higher. A natural attack never gets iterative attacks. Similarly, a monk's (or other character's) Unarmed Strike doesn't get a -5 penalty when used alongside manufactured weapons, which is what happens to natural attacks. Another difference is that the base damage is different (and for monks specifically, the Unarmed Strike damage increases as the monk gains levels).

As I had thought, thanks for the confirmation:!)

Cydeth,

The draconian stance laid out here by some GMs is not indicative of PFS as a whole. In my area, such actions would be condemned. I highly encourage you to give PFS a chance. Find a good FLGS, get a group, and see where it takes you. Again, I apologize that this thread has turned you away from PFS. Hopefully, you can see the rest of the community for what it is: a positive encouraging place where gamers come together for fun.

Hear hear,

Maybe it's a good idea to start carrying receipts around with a xerox copy of xtra-feats etc...

And on a HUMAN level, in the case of a scrapping college student, or one of the many Out-of-work people in today's economy... well once they have money again, perhaps they'll support Paizo by buying more books, but I'm Damn well not going to kick anyone out of my table...
Nuff Said.

As for closing this thread because it's getting a tad heated... well, that will just lead to the start of the thread all over again, won't it?

Let's just hash out what has to be said in calm rational, and pleasant tones... and once again, please pardon my earlier use of French - lol

Can we just all get along :?)

I think I found my own answer to DR, so never mind on that matter :D

Try Bestiary pg.302 Table 3-1.

Thanks Mike!

So Here's the breakdown: SLAM ATTACK is a type of NATURAL ATTACK
(to dash, strike, knock, thrust, throw, slap down, etc., with violent and noisy impact)[thanks Are] A slam attack is a primary bludgeoning attack.
Table 3–1: Natural Attacks by Size

Natural Attack
Fine / Dim / Tiny/Small/Med/Lrg/ Huge/Garg/ Col.
Bite 1 1d2 1d3 1d4 1d6 1d8 2d6 2d8 4d6 B/S/P Primary
Claw — 1 1d2 1d3 1d4 1d6 1d8 2d6 2d8 B/S Primary
Gore 1 1d2 1d3 1d4 1d6 1d8 2d6 2d8 4d6 P Primary
Hoof,Tenticle, Wing
— 1 1d2 1d3 1d4 1d6 1d8 2d6 2d8 B Secondary
Pincers,Tail Slap,
1 1d2 1d3 1d4 1d6 1d8 2d6 2d8 4d6 B Secondary
SLAM — 1 1d2 1d3 1d4 1d6 1d8 2d6 2d8 B Primary
Sting — 1 1d2 1d3 1d4 1d6 1d8 2d6 2d8 P Primary
Talons — 1 1d2 1d3 1d4 1d6 1d8 2d6 2d8 S Primary
Other — 1 1d2 1d3 1d4 1d6 1d8 2d6 2d8 B/S/P Secondary

I will work hard to create OTHER Natural Attacks - lol
But seriously, while we are on the subject, how does Slam stack up with DR?????
And is a monk attack, a Slam? What is the difference? I don't want to sound daft, but it could use a bit more explaining. -THANKS

Dang, you know how heavy those books get? And do the book owners also have to buy pdfs if they don't want to drag their books along? Sheesh, people just need to lighten up.

If someone has a feat that the GM is not familiar with, It is expected that a reference can be quickly produced. If he doesn't have his book with him, but someone else has it, or someone has a copy of it ((No I'm not going to ask to see a frikin watermark on that copy)) then it's just fine by me.

If no one can produce a copy of this feat: Sorry, it's just not working today - Final Answer.

The spirit of PFS is to have a great adventure with your fellow gamers, not to be the Nun with the Ruler.

I'll gladly pass on that table any day of the week.

Actually most of us here would pass on that table, so if you run such a table please put a big RED flag on your table so that gamers who are looking for a fun game know where NOT to go.

I forgot my Core Book the last game I played at.
I was slightly embarrassed at having to borrow a book to reference but no one at the table was a jerk about it.

Some people just need to chill.

When I GM I plan a fun game, not a player inquisition!

You could always have your Evil High Priest of Tiamat whip out ye old
Mirror of Opposition
"This item resembles a normal mirror about 4 feet long and
3 feet wide. It can be hung or placed on a surface and then
activated by speaking a command word. The same command
word deactivates the mirror. If a creature sees its reflection in
the mirror’s surface, an exact duplicate of that creature comes
into being. This opposite immediately attacks the original. The
duplicate has all the possessions and powers of its original
(including magic). Upon the defeat or destruction of either the
duplicate or the original, the duplicate and its items disappear
completely. The mirror functions up to four times per day.
Destroying the mirror (Hardness 1, 5 hit points) causes all of
the duplicates to immediately vanish."

Never a dull moment :!)

Chris Mortika wrote:

Dudeacles,

I agree about Step Up. It's a core feat, it's new in Pathfinder, and it would serve the community of 3.5 veterans well to see that feat used in a sample character.

But the pre-gens aren't supposed to be better than average. If they had all the useful skills, there would be less motivation to build your own PC.

Even as a starting off GM, having someone sit down with one as a spur of the moment impulse, I have seen more frustration with the icons. A caster with no spell craft skill? A complaint I get is 'I can't contribute' to skill rolls with them. It is hard to encourage a player to roleplay whe the have ZERO skills to do a faction mission skill check or help move the game along by identifying something that 'most (insert class name here) would know'.

They don't have to be uber specced but they could use a LITTLE polish for society play.

Exactly! Frustration sets in when you are severely limited as to what you can contribute. So prospective players get turned off when they can't contribute with a skill check that their character SHOULD have.

It's just a big bummer :(

I agree with Symbol, and I like Glyphs too, especially in zones they may be flying through.
Spreading out a few cursed items is always fun.

Have you had anyone banish or dismiss the eidolon in the pass.

Giving your EHP an item that banishes things could be fun too.

How 'bout Gremlin Magic? Anytime characters are in a specific zone, weird things can and will happen to them :D

And as far as the mechanics of squares; I think it's perfectly reasonable for a characters to inhabit the a few of the squares that a huge giant is taking up :D

Dudeacles,

I agree about Step Up. It's a core feat, it's new in Pathfinder, and it would serve the community of 3.5 veterans well to see that feat used in a sample character.

But the pre-gens aren't supposed to be better than average. If they had all the useful skills, there would be less motivation to build your own PC.

Hmmm, it seems counter intuitive to build pre-gens sub-optimally just to discourage their use.

People will always want to build and play their own characters.

I personally would just like to see pre-gens being a bit more USEFUL to a party..,
It's not the other players fault that a 'sub-par iconic' is in their midst.

Just my two cents.

Illeist wrote:

Several Living City players have told me that the ancient practice of writing six adjectives to describe your character is actually a challenging and rewarding experience. Whenever I feel I don't have a thorough grasp of a character, I attempt to find six separate ways to define them, and I've never walked away disappointed.

I actually know of several online test based RPGs that require this exercise as part of setting up a character. It works out well.

All good advice. I don't think you need to write an elaborate back-story. But a guideline may help you role-play.

I personally like favorite expressions that my different characters like to use, written somewhere on their sheets. I find that these sayings help me remember parts of backstory, and what the character is about.

I haven't heard either of receiving extra points, but I can't say it's not possible.

Dudeacles wrote:

Can slaves bought by one PFS character be freed by another, or does that border on PVP?

If the other player "lets" you free them, I'd think it would be fine. Otherwise, yes, it'd be PVP. You're essentially wasting their gold. You may as well be taking their gold and throwing it in the Worldwound.

Or tossing it into the old Sphere of Annihilation comes to mind :D

But thank you both for the answers, such knowledge will be very useful if such an encounter comes.

While on the topic of PreGens... Would it be too much to ask to change some of the Rogues *cough* 'skills' to some that would be more useful for everyday play? Pa-leeeeeease:?)

A point in Use Magic Device, and Bluff both come to mind as particularly useful for good everyday play :D

And while on that, many people have commented that the Step-Up Feat would be much more useful for the 7th Level version, over Mobility (She's already pretty dang good on Acrobatics vs AO's so Mobility is really just a redundancy n'est–ce pas:?)

Just some passing thoughts - lol

Can slaves bought by one PFS character be freed by another, or does that border on PVP?

I'd go with the Cleric.
I think that it's the most well rounded class out there, and all those tanks will need a lot of healing.

You will need a high wisdom, followed by a strong Charisma. The luck domain is great with 'bit of luck' as a standard action three times a day + your Cha modifier.

Tap one of the Tanks before his action and for every d20 he rolls that round, he will roll twice and take the better result! So a ranger rolling for two arrows, rolls 4 d20s :D
And having True-Stike as a domain spell friken-rocks!

I also like the liberation domain, and some of the elemental related domains.

Also playing a Healer makes you VERY popular at society events.

I've seen many a wizard//sorcerer end up as road kill very quickly (especially elves).

Have fun!

"Hey man, I've been thinking this over. You agreed on melee\tank with group, could you at least stick with it. If the eidolon dies you lose the tank for 24Hr." (my response: " And what if I played the tank and I die?"

I'll remember that one:!)

I do like the Idea of Eidolon tanks. I have a level 1Barbarian/1Summoner(Fav) gnome whose scarecrowesque Eidolon charges off into combat. It gets hit a lot, but Tweenie, has a lot of hp to suck up so it works pretty well.

I had an idea for a Marsupial-styled Eidolon and an Agrophoric Gnome which I just posted in this thread:

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