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I've been doing some reading on the Feral Champion archetype for the Warpriest. They way I am reading it means you cannot use Sacred Weapon while in Wild Shape form. However, some other discussions I have seen seem to indicate other people believe differently. I wanted to bring up the discussion because I am hoping I am wrong (although RAW I don't think I am).

So here is my step by step reasoning:

1. The only Sacred Weapon a Feral Champion can have are their claws. Sacred Claws alters Sacred Weapons and says "Rather than empowering a physical weapon, a feral champion grows claws as primary natural weapons on each hand" This indicates to me that the normal way of making your weapon a Sacred Weapon (getting Weapon Focus) is replaced by this method. This means no Sacred Weapon bite, tentacle, slam, etc.

2. In the same Sacred Claws rule it mentions that "[t]hese claws deal damage as a warpriest’s sacred weapon and can be enhanced as such." Since it says "[t]hese" it does not mean all claws, just the ones you grow from this class feature.

3. Polymorph rules state: "While under the effects of a polymorph spell, you lose all extraordinary and supernatural abilities that depend on your original form (such as keen senses, scent, and darkvision), as well as any natural attacks and movement types possessed by your original form. You also lose any class features that depend upon form, but those that allow you to add features (such as sorcerers that can grow claws) still function." Sacred Claws is a supernatural ability, natural attack, and a class feature. It does add claws, but since it adds them permanently I feel it more appropriately fits into the "class feature that depend upon form" than adding a feature (sorcerers can only grow claws a certain number of times per day).

So if I Wild Shape into a dire tiger, I have lost the claws from my Sacred Claws class feature and now have just plain dire tiger claws. Since Sacred Claws only applies to "these claws" aka the claws granted by the class feature, I gain no benefit from Sacred Weapon in this (or any) form.

I really don't want to be right, because I would love the damage bonus (what would that be for a Warpriest wild shaped to be Huge I wonder?) and special abilities without an amulet of might fists, but I just don't see it. Please let me know if I missed something.