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You seem to be right, the size bonus and size penalty to attack rolls apply only for specific things, such as being a gnome, halfling, goblin, kobold, ratfolk, grippli, svirfneblin, or wayang; or spells such as enlarge person or reduce person. Are these only applicable then for these specific circumstances? So a Goblin PC would get a size modifier and size bonus on attack rolls?
By your definition you would have to include both.
I see your point now as the usage and wording of penalty and bonus is ambiguous.Bonus: Bonuses are numerical values that are added to checks and statistical scores. Most bonuses have a type, and as a general rule, bonuses of the same type are not cumulative (do not “stack”)—only the greater bonus granted applies.
Penalty: Penalties are numerical values that are subtracted from a check or statistical score. Penalties do not have a type and most penalties stack with one another.
Determine Bonuses... A positive modifier is called a bonus, and a negative modifier is called a penalty.
Funny thing: the playable races all have a untyped modifier to CMB+CMD and the modifier to attack rolls is specifically typed as "size" and therefore would not stack with another size modifier when rolling attacks.
I still follow " you shold not apply a modifier from the same source twice" which is consistent through all rulings and therefore replace the size modifier to attacks/attack rolls with the size modifier to cmb/cmd when making an Combat Maneuver check