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Erik Mona wrote:


I do wonder how spells would work for this, though. 9 different "paladin" spell lists strikes me as:

a) A lot of work.
B) A lot of space in the book for stuff I will never use.
C) Perhaps more trouble than it is worth.

Hmmmm.

Technically, you'd only need six (or possibly four) lists of spells: One each for Good, Evil, Law, Chaos, and (optionally) the two Neutrals (moral axis and ethical axis). Then you just plug in whatever matches your "paladin's" alignment.


An old issue of Dragon Magazine (106, I think. . . ?) included Paladin-variants for the alignments besides LG and CE. As I recall, each sub-class switched out a small number of abilities from the generic template and replaced them with more thematic stuff.

Having not actually read the Alpha release yet (I'll be downloading it momentarily), I'm not sure if the alignment system has been tweaked, but it might make sense to create a cluster of "Aligned Knight" (or somesuch) classes (or possibly even Prestige classes), each one built around the goals of a specific alignment. So the Paladin (Lawful Good) heals his friends, smites the wicked, inspires courage, maybe forges his own holy sword, etc., because those are Good and Lawful things to do. The Chaotic Good version might heal his friends, smite the wicked, break enchantment effects, grant bonuses to his allies' weapons, etc. And so on and so forth.

I'm hoping this doesn't sound too inane. . . =/


Aberzombie wrote:
Dagonet wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:


But does that show contempt for the American legal system, as the original poster described? Or does it show that some people have such a profound respect for the American Flag and what they believe it represents that they wish to protect it.

<laugh> I believe the word you're looking for here is idolatry, which is rather a big no-no as far as Christianity is concerned. One which the Amendment's supporters are, eventually, going to have to answer for.

Let's see, according to Webster's Idolatry - 1. Worship of idols. 2. Blind or excessive adoration or devotion.

Hmm...Nope, nothing in that definition about respect, profound or otherwise, which is the term I used.

Indeed yes, but that's not the term which the Amendment's supporters use. I believe they speak of a law to prevent the desecration of the American flag. Can you even desecrate something which you don't, in and of itself, consider sacred? Making a change to the *foundation* of this country, demanding that no one show disrespect to a colored piece of cloth or paper or plastic--that goes far beyond any possible degree of respect. I respect my friends, I respect the human skill which raises a skyscraper, and I respect the team at Paizo which puts out quality entertainment products like Dungeon; when I try to pass a law to protect an inanimate symbol, I am going far beyond respect and falling to my knees in worship, spiritually if not physically.

As for "blind devotion," Tatterdemalion has it exactly right. You can either serve Freedom by allowing someone to spit upon the symbol of that Freedom, or you can build a wall around the symbol and spit upon Freedom itself. What else is it but blindness to confuse the two?

Aberzombie wrote:


There is a difference. ONe can respect something without worshipping it. People have sacrificed themselves for what they believe that flag represents. Are you saying that they don't deserve any respect?

<laughing> Not bad, not bad at all. A clever tactic, and quite the interesting question. Since you bring it up, many, many people have sacrificed themselves for what they believe their flag represents. Some of them we call heroes. Others we call. . . other things. But we're not talking about what the flag *represents*. We're talking about people who want to sacrifice their rights and YOUR rights and MY rights in the name of a piece of cloth. I daresay no one was allowed to spit on the Golden Calf either.

Cheers,

Dagonet


Aberzombie wrote:
Tatterdemalion wrote:
Tatterdemalion wrote:
Free speech is good (unless you want to burn a flag)
Aberzombie wrote:
When did President Bush ever make a big speech about Flag Burning? For that matter, when did he ever deny anyone the right to free speech?
He has, and presumably still does, support an amendment prohibiting the burning of the American flag.
But does that show contempt for the American legal system, as the original poster described? Or does it show that some people have such a profound respect for the American Flag and what they believe it represents that they wish to protect it.

<laugh> I believe the word you're looking for here is idolatry, which is rather as big no-no as far as Christianity is concerned. One which the Amendment's supporters are, eventually, going to have to answer for.

The Jade: I left a note for Merlin with his secretary, a pretty young lady named Vivien, who promised she'd deliver it as soon as possible.

Cheers,

Dagonet


Kruelaid wrote:
Aberzombie wrote:

All in all, I would say that G.W. Bush has been one of the least impressive Republican Presidents in the last 100 years.

lol, and he is impressive in what way?

How about in his contempt for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights?

Or the extent to which he has transformed the United States of America into a terrorist state?

Cheers,

Dagonet