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Understood. Just seemed odd that Beast Shape would grant it but Elemental Body wouldn't. But, them's the rules. So, note for the future: Don't earth glide when I don't know what's at my planned exit point.


Hi all. I have a couple questions regarding earth elementals and the Elemental Body spell. I was using Elemental Body recently to bypass a cliff by earth gliding. However, my GM ruled that without tremorsense I wouldn't be able to perceive what was around my exit point, and I was promptly pancaked by a frost giant at the top when I emerged. This leads me to two questions:

1. Does an earth elemental have means (besides tremorsense) of perceiving activity in the world around it while earth gliding? Or am I effectively blind if I earth glide without tremorsense?

2. Would adding tremorsense to the earth elemental form of the Elemental Body spells be a reasonable home brew addition, with its radius getting wider for more powerful versions of Elemental Body (20 ft for EB I, 30 ft for EB II, etc.)? Or was that deliberately omitted from the spell for game balance reasons?

Thanks for the feedback!


Hi James,

I have a couple questions regarding earth elementals and the Elemental Body spell. I was using Elemental Body recently to earth glide up a hill. However, my GM ruled that without tremorsense I wouldn't be able to perceive what was around my exit point, and I was promptly pancaked by a frost giant when I emerged. This leads me to two questions:

1. Does an earth elemental have means (besides tremorsense)of perceiving activity in the world around it while earth gliding? Or am I effectively blind if I earth glide without tremorsense?

2. Would adding tremorsense to the earth elemental form of the Elemental Body spells be a reasonable home brew addition, with its radius getting wider for more powerful versions of Elemental Body? Or was that deliberately omitted from the spell for game balance reasons?

Thanks for your time!