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Its not just a once a year thing, but it *is* one that happens most frequently in August. It happens every time shipping slips past the release date of the book and people haven't gotten their shipping notices and therefore their PDFs. If you reinforce that PDF drops on the release date for PDF subscriptions, you are going to run into people getting upset that book subscribers are getting their PDFs sometimes a full week earlier than them. I know that you don't think that's a big deal but there will be people who make it such.

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You say that, but every August there are people that whine that they're not getting their PDFs early. Every single one.

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That's exactly what our GM is doing as we move from Gatewalkers to Curtain Call. Between the APs we will have a year off where we can just completely rebuild our characters with no restrictions coming into Curtain Call at 11.

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The biggest thing about the argument is that while in the long term PDFs do not hurt physical book sales, getting the PDF early would disincentivize brick and mortar stores from stocking Paizo books. There are already game stores that take umbrage to the current subscription process. Whether it actually hurts them or not tends to not matter to business owners who feel threatened.

And if you're not getting the PDF early at all, there are going to be people that complain when physical subscribers start getting their PDFs 2 weeks before them, even though thats not actually one of the stated benefits of the subs.

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The idea that getting pdf early would cut into the sales of books is nonsensical. They are not the same products at all.
Paizo reps have responded to this point at length in the past, as QuidEst said. Just because you don't have all the information, or don't accept it, doesn't make it nonsensical.

IIRC the canon answer came from Vic Wertz like 12 or 14 years ago.

What made a lot of sense then might not make much anymore.

Also I very much would like to get an actual counterpoint so that I can understand it better.

The original answer came in 2009, sure, but it gets answered again every time the subject of PDF subscriptions come up. That is still the official answer from Paizo.

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Oh god my game is in the blog. I guess it's really real now. Excited to bring my own take on Bastardhall back to its Paizocon roots.

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All of them

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Its the thematic replacement for the Balor, while the level replacement is the updated Vrolikai which got moved from 19 to 20.

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There's overlap with the images in NPC Core so there will be overlap in the token pack too

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I would *love* token packs for the APs that happened *before* the official modules though.

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For more on this you should read Death's Heretic and the Redemption Engine, both by James Sutter. Two novels about a Rahadoumi man pressed into service as an inquisitor of Pharasma

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Irizata wrote:
Any word on VTT support for this AP? Would love to run it but my group is too spread out geographically to play in-person any more.

Considering that every AP since Outlaws of Alkenstar has gotten a premium module, I'd say it's a pretty safe bet that that's not going to stop.

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Because this isn't a new book. Its a reprint with language changes to make it ORC compliant, and some errata. Those of us who were already subscribers when this first released would have been hit with another purchase for essentially the same book if it had been part of subscriptions.

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WORRY

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WHY IS DESKARI ON THE COVER

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When they do reformatting with the errata it will, that usually only occurs when they reprint the book, but you will get an updated PDF at that time.

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Spoiler:
Gone are all references to shadow, the art has changed from black shadowy look to a green smokey look, and it has a fun new reaction to deal you part of the damage you dealt it.

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Spoiler:
The miastrilek looks to be a replacement for the Hezrou, both are poison/disease based and same level

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Well that explains the rune in the corner of the pages

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The Guantlight and The Pit are both megadungeons. The Gauntlight takes all three books of Abomination Vaults. The Pit takes all of Seven Dooms For Sandpoint, which was a double sized Adventure Path volume. The upcoming Shades of Blood is a three book megadungeon too.

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Of note the

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Degholau is the same level and has similar areas of concern as the Glabrezu (lies, treason, treachery) and the Eshmok is the same level and similar areas of concern (wrath, hatred) as the Vrock. I'd put money on there being valid substitutions for the Balor and Marilith in later volumes of the AP

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They are system agnostic, but made for the Foundry platform. If you're asking about other platforms, you can theoretically get the files out of Foundry to use elsewhere but nothing prebuilt for Roll20 or Fantasy Grounds.

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Good news, his alignment will never change because alignment doesn't exist anymore

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CHICKEN TRAIN

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That kind of sucks though for anyone without the original book. Random fluke to even check the forum posts to see it's not going to be in the subscription. Will you still offer a free PDF copy for ordering the hardcopy? Main reason for keeping the subscription at all.

I agree, the whole reason I have the subscription is to not worry about making sure I need to get these releases, and the free pdf included.

I was curious what all had been revealed regarding the changes to the book and just happened to read these comments, if I hadn't I wouldn't have know until my book never was shipped. I think if this becomes the norm for future remaster rulebooks I would also have to cancel.
I understand I may be biased, but I think just asking the people who didn't want a copy to message support was better than preventing all those without one from getting the pdf included.

The problem is that this book was part of a subscription already. This isn't like Player Core and GM Core where it's a total reworking of the book, its more akin to a reprint with an errata pass. So keeping it in the subscription would mean that those of use who already have the hardcover either have to manually ask Paizo Customer Service to skip this one (and potentially temporarily lose benefits tied to holding a certain amount of subscriptions) or eat the extra money for a new printing of a book we already have.

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It's here

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scary harpy wrote:

Ravithra The Chalice-Bearer

Make decisions erratically or randomly,
provide aid to Vasaghati or her followers,
engage in treachery

Vasaghati is not included...outside of this mention.

Thats because its a Vudran deity that hasn't actually been statted up yet.

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Also to be fair, there's a high likelihood that if Carrion Crown were written today, Lorrimor would not be a wizard (especially since NPCs aren't built that way in 2E really)

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His aspects don't change his statblock.

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Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:
Are the pantheons from Knights of Last Wall, among other aource books here.

Pantheons are not in this chart at all. This chart is just singular deities.

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Well glad it's not a new trend.

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Question for the Paizo team, do we think this table might get updated as new gods get introduced?

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Was just coming here to post that lol

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I *very* much appreciate that this makes the table a single page rather than spread over two pages that could be hard to reference in a PDF

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This is actually pretty thoroughly explained in Divine Mysteries. Maybe wait to read it before passing judgement.

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If you read the post, they are going to the con. They are partnering with Card Titan for booth space.

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Mammoth Daddy wrote:
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Source is in the PFS guidance it lists the supplemental table.

Link?

I tried to find this and gave up. No supplemental table.

The supplemental table itself is not released yet.

Pathfinder Society Player Options live here. Scroll down to Divine Mysteries.

The Above Link wrote:


The following deities with problematic edicts and/or anathema:
Ashukharma (page 322)
Diomazul (page 322)
Ferrumnestra (page 306)
Hshurha (page 306)
Lalaci (page 308)
Lubaiko (web supplement)
Lurlup (page 312)
Mother Vulture (page 316)
Neshen (page 308)
Rull (page 316)
Sekhmet (web supplement)
Set (web supplement)
Sicva (page 302)
Whispering Way (page 250)

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Customer service does not use the forums to handle requests. Either email customer.service@paizo.com or open a ticket here

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The supplemental table is gods that didn't make it into the appendix table.

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Source is in the PFS guidance it lists the supplemental table.

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Gunny wrote:

Only 9 out of the 36 new spells are available to clerics. What gives?

Given the title, you would think clerics would have access to the majority of New spells.

Technically all the spells are available to clerics, because they are granted by specific gods.

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Generally they tend to do the physical reward tiers when they're close to selling out of a print run of something, so they can get it back in print faster.

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Elysium

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This is extremely welcome news. Thank you Katina!

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Yes lets blame the abused for their actions rather than their abusers.

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The official word is directly above in how they are represented in the table at the back of the book. The ones that are listed in the In Memoriam section are not worshipable going forward. The others still are (Bes for instance is listed as part of the Fortune's Fate pantheon).

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One thing I did in the first encounter is switching out maggots for weak abyssal larvae, felt more thematic.

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File a ticket to Customer Service, like Mark and Katina said above.