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Dragon78 wrote:

Fortitude saves = base + Con mod + Str mod

Reflex saves = base + Dex mod + Int mod

Will saves = base + Wis mod + Cha mod

The only problem with doing both is this would be Wizards would be better at reflex saves than monks, and fighters would get even worse at will saves.

Its not the worst idea it just has the problem that certain classes would benefit greatly, and low-mental martials would be double penalized.

Its not exactly a bad thing, but it would also mean even taking a 9 on a stat would hurt alot more than it does today, as at least now you can tiptoe around your stats linked to saves.


I would really like to see Charisma get more use. Because its the greatest dump stat until you stack so many feats and class features together that everything runs off of it.

There as a mention by one of the creators that during original pathfinder creation they were going to take an approach similar to 4th where saves were calculated off of the higher of 2 stats.
Reflex was Dex or Int
Fort was Str or Con
Will was Wis or Cha

It has the effect of taking a little power away from dex and raising Charisma a little bit out of being the universal dump stat.

Now i don't know if i'd go so far as 4th and then extend that to past saves (They had classes with Str or Dex to hit, Dex or Int to AC, Con or Cha to Hp, and i think wisdom was in there somehwere). But it would at least make the stat less of a punishment for the charisma classes.