He's here all week!
Nice... Interesting to see what standard Alignment this Faction gets classed as, and how it relates to other Factions... It seems most in-line with the Grand Lodge itself, but perhaps they will have differences...
Not allowing a bunch of new PC races seems the best move IMHO, if it isn`t to become a menagerie game.
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Im wondering about this 'samurai and ninja alternate classes' as well.
Also, the lodge sounds pretty cool.
They've been alternate classes since the playtest. They're not full base classes like the gunslinger, but are spelled out level-by-level, unlike an archetype that just describes new powers and when to slot them in. See the Ultimate Combat Playtest PDF for more information.
Hmmm.. A samurai who swears fealty to the Lantern Lodge? That brightens my hopes for having another PFS character. The last one died. Quickly.
Good to know more about the Lantern Lodge, which I had no idea what it was going to be like. I’m still curious about what type of Faction missions they will be doing. At this point it looks like they are going to be replacing Taldor as the faction that has the completely random faction missions.
Heh. I imagine they would be interested in tracking down rumoured weapons that are better than a katana... Faction Points are hard to come by for them Tian. ...I just hope there aren´t too many fortune cookie plots.
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Good to know more about the Lantern Lodge, which I had no idea what it was going to be like. I’m still curious about what type of Faction missions they will be doing. At this point it looks like they are going to be replacing Taldor as the faction that has the completely random faction missions.Heh. I imagine they would be interested in tracking down rumoured weapons that are better than a katana... Faction Points are hard to come by for them Tian. ...I just hope there aren´t too many fortune cookie plots.
Foolish mortal, do you not yet know that there is NO better weapon than the mighty katana, 1h light simple weapon with a 15-20 x63gajillion crit multiplier dual wielded in the hands of even a peasant make for the best weapon evar!!
Oh, and they have +59 to resist sunder and can be thrown with range incremnts of 50.
BEST WEAPON EVAR!!!!111!!11one!
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They've been alternate classes since the playtest. They're not full base classes like the gunslinger, but are spelled out level-by-level, unlike an archetype that just describes new powers and when to slot them in. See the Ultimate Combat Playtest PDF for more information.Im wondering about this 'samurai and ninja alternate classes' as well.
Also, the lodge sounds pretty cool.
I’m confused. I just re-read the playtest document that you linked here, and they look like fully fleshed out 20 level classes. So what is the difference between an alternate class and a base class?
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I’m confused. I just re-read the playtest document that you linked here, and they look like fully fleshed out 20 level classes. So what is the difference between an alternate class and a base class?
There are three terms:
Core Class: One of the classes from the core rulebook.
Base Class: Any class, treated in the same manner of those from the core rulebook but come from an alternate document (APG, UM, UC).
Alternate Class: This class may be used in lieu of a core OR base class. In other words, you cannot be a multi-class cavalier/samurai, or rogue/ninja. Originally the gunslinger was an alternate class of the fighter, meaning a fighter/gunslinger was not possible, now as a base class, it is. A more complex form of an archetype basically.
Clear as mud?
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I’m confused. I just re-read the playtest document that you linked here, and they look like fully fleshed out 20 level classes. So what is the difference between an alternate class and a base class?They've been alternate classes since the playtest. They're not full base classes like the gunslinger, but are spelled out level-by-level, unlike an archetype that just describes new powers and when to slot them in. See the Ultimate Combat Playtest PDF for more information.Im wondering about this 'samurai and ninja alternate classes' as well.
Also, the lodge sounds pretty cool.
I can't find the posts, but I have been lead to believe that they fall between the Archtypes and a full Base Class. They are based heavily on a Base Class but with enough changes that they are more than just an Archtype. (See the Antipaladin)
Looking at them in the books doesn't seem to be any different than looking at a new base class. The question then becomes, if the alternate class kept the abilities that its base class archtype swaps out does it then qualify to take that Archtype. Of course, thats a question for another part of the boards.
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I’m confused. I just re-read the playtest document that you linked here, and they look like fully fleshed out 20 level classes. So what is the difference between an alternate class and a base class?There are three terms:
Core Class: One of the classes from the core rulebook.
Base Class: Any class, treated in the same manner of those from the core rulebook but come from an alternate document (APG, UM, UC).
Alternate Class: This class may be used in lieu of a core OR base class. In other words, you cannot be a multi-class cavalier/samurai, or rogue/ninja. Originally the gunslinger was an alternate class of the fighter, meaning a fighter/gunslinger was not possible, now as a base class, it is. A more complex form of an archetype basically.
Clear as mud?
This too.
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I’m confused. I just re-read the playtest document that you linked here, and they look like fully fleshed out 20 level classes. So what is the difference between an alternate class and a base class?There are three terms:
Core Class: One of the classes from the core rulebook.
Base Class: Any class, treated in the same manner of those from the core rulebook but come from an alternate document (APG, UM, UC).
Alternate Class: This class may be used in lieu of a core OR base class. In other words, you cannot be a multi-class cavalier/samurai, or rogue/ninja. Originally the gunslinger was an alternate class of the fighter, meaning a fighter/gunslinger was not possible, now as a base class, it is. A more complex form of an archetype basically.
Clear as mud?
Got it, thanks.
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:/ Seeeee.... I was kind of hoping for more from this - which is why I jumped in to read the discussion. This faction description doesn't really explain what they are all about - what their motivations, goals, behavior, etc., is like - it just tells us that it is themed on Asian cultures and "their interests." See, I don't know about *your* characters, but mine is in a crucial dilemma at the moment.
Having just played a few PFS modules where
What else can we know about this faction that will help me settle this character's orderliness dilemma? Can we get an alignment on this faction? Settle my fears....?
-will
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Having just played a few PFS modules where ** spoiler omitted **My advice to you is to play through the rest of the scenarios in the series where that spoiler was revealed as well as the two-part Shadow's Last Stand arc to get the full story.
Def will do - Doug Miles is our local PFS guru, and he knows how I feel about it.... And told me he would have our group put through all of them. I still feel like it would be good if the Lantern Lodge was a Faction that didn't fall out of line with a monk's outlook - and Bodokai will still be considering a faction trade, regardless - Osirion is just not quite the right flavor for an elven monk - even one with the Desert Runner alternate racial trait.
Thanks, Mark.
-will
