I am also going to look through Lysander, Anathiel, Catador and Alyarah. If i spot anything or have any comments i will let you know in the discussion tab
Laere i already left my comment for your build in the discussion. Its just since you are chaotic neutral, one of your divine source domains have to be chaos(following your alignment). so you need to swap one of your divine source domains with the chaos domain
For everyone else, please comment in the discussion tab with your alias once you have completed your character so i can vet it
Catador: I see you haven't fully copy and pasted everything yet but your mechanically your stats are in order from what i can tell. so you are good to go once you fully complete your story and copy in the base mythic abilities
there is one thing i should clarify though:
The base mythic ability Recuperation which lets you spent 1 mythic power to regain features that are limited by uses per day, only works for Class features. It explicitly doesn't work on Mythic abilities. So your plan on how to use your divine source spell-likes multiple times a day won't work.Recuperation (Ex)
At 3rd tier, you are restored to full hit points after 8 hours of rest so long as you aren’t dead. In addition, by expending one use of mythic power and resting for 1 hour, you regain a number of hit points equal to half your full hit points (up to a maximum of your full hit points) and regain the use of any class features that are limited to a certain number of uses per day (such as barbarian rage, bardic performance, spells per day, and so on). This rest is treated as 8 hours of sleep for such abilities. This rest doesn’t refresh uses of mythic power or any mythic abilities that are limited to a number of times per day.
I was half-asleep last night and knew the Sleepless path ability is more powerful that the base mythic recuperation ability, but did so without rereading Sleepless to verify.
By Sleepless, I can only recover 'once per day' abilities by resting for 1 hour (without needing to spend an use of mythic power like recuperation requires)...BUT (after I have now re-read if after getting a half-night's sleep) can only be done ONCE per day to regain the 'once per day' abilities of abilities or class features.
Sleepless (Su): You no longer require sleep, don't become fatigued or exhausted from lack of sleep, and are immune to sleep effects. If you have abilities or class features that require rest before they can be regained, you can choose to regain them once per day by spending 1 hour in uninterrupted meditation.
As it listed abilities as separate from class features, and unlike the base mythic Recuperation anility, does not include the stipulation sentence, "This rest doesn't refresh uses of mythic power or any mythic abilities that are limited to a number of times per day." I was working with it working with it recharging daily-limited uses of (non-base) mythic power abilities as well.
Non-base mythic power abilities as that would prevent resetting your daily mythic power uses to maximum once per day.
What is your ruling on how Sleepless interacts with mythic power abilities we gain that have a daily-limited number of uses?
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With being Tier 10 mythic characters, regaining mythic power throughout the day should not be that much of a issue to never have our 'mythic power wells' run dry, especially if some of the mythic options characters take increases the frequency/success rate of that occurring.
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I have the combat summary sections spoilers organized on the Catador's profile, but still have to figure out and input the data into the respective spoilers.
For story-form backstory I will compile all the 'story-style' bits from what I have so far (from Ten Minute Background) (which probably half a page), and work in story form time spent in afterlife with father, time spent with his mother and people when he returned to life as the sole deity of skavengers, his father (unbeknownst to him) working 'in the shadows' to help make his son's vision for his people from coming true, and some sort of confrontation with Lucas....that one I am currently let simmer in the 'creative stew pot'...
Thanks for choosing to run this fun concept game. :)
I had no intention of having a character that became a god when I came up with the home-brewed skavenger race. Thanks for not rushing us on our creative process.
Sleepless (Su) (Mythic Adventures pg. 51): You no longer require sleep, don't become fatigued or exhausted from lack of sleep, and are immune to sleep effects. If you have abilities or class features that require rest before they can be regained you can choose to regain them once per day by spending 1 hour in uninterrupted meditation.
I don’t think sleepless would allow you to regain most mythic abilities because of the emphasised line. Most mythic abilities do not require rest to be regained(unlike stuff like spell casting and other class features which requires rest). Mythic power for instance, recharges on passively 1/hour for MR10 or 1/day for other characters. You do not regain MP on rest, you simply regain it everyday.
Same for divine source, which is simply a daily source of spell-likes that recharge every day without fail, not requiring rest. Last I checked all mythic abilities if limited by uses simply refreshes everyday without needing rest
Another reason I think this doesn’t work is because if it was even close to being considered RAW, there would be lots of people asking about it on the forums or elsewhere. Searching Sleepless mythic ability on Google gives me no threads of power gamers asking if you could use sleepless to pull off some weird combo or guides ranking sleepless as the go to mythic ability to take.
So no I will rule that unless the ability explicitly says you need to rest to regain it, sleepless won’t let you regain it with 1 hour of mediation
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All MR10 characters regain 1 MP/hour. However be able to essentially double your reserves of MP everyday is a problem. It’s probably why Recuperation doesn’t let you touch your mythic power uses. Considering Recuperation and Sleepless are both Tier 3 abilities, I don’t think sleepless would be that much of an upgrade
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No problem the point of this game is to be wacky and powerful. One of the reasons I set it up is to see what weird builds people can come up with
Nice catch on the 'requires rest' to differentiate between daily-limted abilities that are automatically recharged each day without having the specific stipulation of requiring '8 hours of rest' in their write-ups. I will re-read my non-mythic stuff to see which ones Sleepless applies to.
Alright then, I will likely write up the intro soon so you can join in whenever you are ready since your character is done
I re-read Divine source.
Now I read it that if you already have domains, you can change THEM to be yours.
Anyhow, I cannot take Fate because it is a subdomain. And Luck isn't quite the same.
The idea is, Tavik has a thread of some forgotten Fey Sidhe in his destiny now. and as soon as gets that, he *will* go for restoration of said Fey - with of course him being the new archbishop, chosen one or herald of...and there will be another crisis of faith when he realizes he will be embodiment and literal vessel of said lord
Tavik: yes that is how it’s supposed to be read. It’s basically to allow clerics who pick divine source to pick domain spells from their own domains in addition to their deities.
That’s a fine plot hook
I've written up the background. What was in there was old. Let me know what changes you want made. Trawets
That’s a fine plot hook
Law and Luck domains, what specific Fae is up to you, Morrigan is Magdh (three women in one)
Oghma the Binder (stolen by Faerun) is knowledge, poerty etc...and Ogham is the only known 3D written language
I have 3 language slots free, I would like to have that as kind of "language of fate" maybe something Tavik uses in divinations
Other two...two ancient ones?
Also, Tavik will start collecting Occult rituals :)
Will you use skill unlocks and occult skills?
@Elioa: I sent you a PM.
Trawets: I will have a look at it in a moment
Tavik:Alright noted. Sure you can have Ogham as an esoteric sort of language though it will be rather rare to find other speakers of this language
I will let you know as the game goes on what ancient languages there are
I will allow occult skills but not normal skill unlock. That would add too much stuff for me to manage
Catador: I replied to your PM just now
Trawets: your backstory is fine you may select one other special power for your TMB as you only have a template and alt capstone at the moment
Though I have one clarification, in case this needs to be said, perfect preparation does not let you prepare from spells from the entire wizard spell list. It just means if your spellbook is in your head now and I can’t have it be stolen or stuff like that. You still need to pay the cost for inscribing spells into your spell book as normal but instead of going into a book it goes into your head.
Running it any other way will greatly unbalance the game once you hit higher levels so I hope you understand. You can swap it out for something else if you think you wouldn’t want it if I run it this way.
Not in discussion yet as still need to complete combat summary entries.
Trawets: your backstory is fine you may select one other special power for your TMB as you only have a template and alt capstone at the moment
Though I have one clarification, in case this needs to be said, perfect preparation does not let you prepare from spells from the entire wizard spell list. It just means if your spellbook is in your head now and I can’t have it be stolen or stuff like that. You still need to pay the cost for inscribing spells into your spell book as normal but instead of going into a book it goes into your head.
Running it any other way will greatly unbalance the game once you hit higher levels so I hope you understand. You can swap it out for something else if you think you wouldn’t want it if I run it this way.
It never occurred to me that perfect preparation gave you all spells. While I may not agree about having to pay to learn the spells, I always figured I would have to encounter the spell, scroll, spellbook, another mage, just not pay to write it in my head. No biggie though, it's only money.
Can the new special power be a mythic ability (Component Freedom or Arcane Potency) or must it come from the original list?
Tavik: don’t worry yourselves too much you guys won’t be short of ways to earn money
Well I feel like a lone mythic ability is weaker than the powers from the original list but sure if you want to you may choose an extra ability
Updated Catador's HeroForge mini to better match up with the additions to his backstory/deityhood.
Catador: Nice. Do feel free to jump in once you are ready
Hey GM, Manicwyrm here. bet you thought i forgot about this didnt you?
I have fully statted out my character and written a full Ten-minute background as well. I noticed you allowed us to write something extra for our backstory for bonus mythic abilities so i went ahead and wrote an additional 3 memories for my character.
She is a cyclopean seer oracle of Pharasma, focused mostly on divination and maybe illusion later down the line. To that effect, i have taken the harrow bloodline and the foresight arcane school for two of her special powers. Her other special was spent of templates, advanced and Mutant.
Her mortal herald domain is Knowledge because it had a bunch of divination spell-likes that fit with her theme. Let me know if i need to change anything
Manicwyrm: I am surprised you actually did make a character. Pleasantly so as it looks like it’s in order from my quick look through. You are good to go. Join in when ready
I do not recall if it was already asked/discussed.
Are we using Background skills from Pathfinder Unchained?
Been reading gameplay and currently creating combat summary.
Elioa told monkey god he never used background skills before so it won’t be in this game. I don’t think this ruling has changed
Will we be facing many non mythic foes over the course of this game? I'm thinking of taking mythic Critical Focus but regular Crit Focus requires BaB+9, which I likely won't get till 12th level. Would it even be worth it by then?
That would be telling :p
Given that we're starting with Baba Yaga...I don't think non-mythics are a threat even if you don't have perfect feat combo
Catador: I am not familiar with background skills so i won't be using them in this game
Completely your call on not using them. They are optional rules, after all. And I spent a skill point on profession metallurgy anyways, because it fit the character.
If you are curious though, here are the rules:
Everyone gets 2 free skill points for use of RP purposes. These cannot be the traditional "useful" skills like perception or the like. But rather flavor ones. Like crafting, profession, animal handling, etc. The idea being that it gets people to take skills that fit a character's background even if it isn't useful. This way, a Paladin that has a background in writing religious calligraphy might spend a skill point on craft calligraphy, when he otherwise wouldn't have (as an int 10 paladin only gets 2 skill points per level normally).
List of Background Skills
Appraise
Artistry
Craft
Handle Animal
Knowledge (engineering)
Knowledge (geography)
Knowledge (history)
Knowledge (nobility)
Linguistics
Lore
Perform
Profession
Sleight of Hand
Aside from my TMB, which is almost done, I believe my character sheet is complete, except for two things, which I would have questions for:
May I take the Diplomat trait, even if I am not from the Valashmai Jungle(it's a regional trait)?
Secondly, for languages, what should I pick? Earth ones(since I'm from there), Golarion ones, or some other list?
Aside from my TMB, which is almost done, I believe my character sheet is complete, except for two things, which I would have questions for:
May I take the Diplomat trait, even if I am not from the Valashmai Jungle(it's a regional trait)?
Secondly, for languages, what should I pick? Earth ones(since I'm from there), Golarion ones, or some other list?
Firstly, sure you may.
Secondly, you pick Golarion ones to put in your character sheet but you can choose to also know some irl languages as well but they likely won’t be very relevant since only the people from earth would speak them.
So if say you are from the US, you can just tell me that your character also knows English and Spanish because you learnt it growing up
I just realized I didn't see the answer to earlier question about skills
So, occult uses and unchained unlocks...how do they work? For unchained, nothing happens before 5th level, but is it unchained rogues only, feat access, free access?
And occult uses...I think I'm the only one with Psychic sensitivity (occult class), but it might be relevant - especially with Perception for reading auras. But there are others too.
So I am only allowed to occult skills specifically because only one of you will be using it. Maybe I will allow skill unlocks when the time comes and I will let you all know how to acquire it when you reach the appropriate level
I will send a post in gameplay at night after dinner. Mostly so more people can post and I can respond to more people at once