GAMEDAY #8-25: Unleashing the Untouchable - GM Nowruz (Inactive)

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Made the map icon for Isah slightly transparent, since he's not currently present but we need to remember where he WILL be when he comes back.

I'm loving how determined the axiomites are to 'redact' Kyron!

They are quite persistent, aren't they? At least you've got the saves to tell them no.

I just spotted that it looks like Kyron's current temporary hit points total may be wrong. I believe the only damage he's taken during this fight is the 14 hit points he took when Vector hit him (reduced to 4 by the stoneskin).

Corrected!

Did Caduceus‘ SR rolls include the +4 for Elemental Might?

"After reviewing my notes, I recalled an interesting fact. The Inevitable subtype grants susceptibility to effects that target constructs."

"While I'm satisfied with bringing mage's sword into the fight against incorporeals... what would have happened if I had instead cast control construct? I doubt either of the axiomites here personally constructed Vector, after all."

Did Caduceus' SR rolls include the +4 for Elemental Might?

Drat! No, I forgot those.

So, overcomes SR 21 and 20 respectively. Still might not be enough.

Kyron wrote:

Did Caduceus' SR rolls include the +4 for Elemental Might?

Drat! No, I forgot those.

So, overcomes SR 21 and 20 respectively. Still might not be enough.

The first monster knowledge block says the smaller guys have SR 19, so that would pass. However, since they're both incorporeal.. I'm not sure whether 1dmg gets rounded up or down when halved.

"Guys... I think Yanndu doesn't like Vector. Can't be sure, though."

”I am brute! “

Lichaam nods and points at Fendahl. "He is brute."

"Granted, I'm assuming that's the reason why Miss Westyr sent you along. Field missions without someone who can apply force physically tend to go poorly."

Fendahl usually qualifies as a 2nd tier fighter in most parties.
But when the mission serves you a bunch of casters, you make due :)

Given Daathiel being inspired by The Doctor, I wish that I could be engaging in arguments with Vector about us being temporal anomalies... but it just doesn't seem to fit with this mission.

I have been in scenarios with time travel where such Inevitable interference would make sense. Here, unless there's something I missed, we're not affecting causality in any way.

I get that Vector is a cool mythic foe with a host of interesting abilities - I just don't get thematically why he is here as we aren't doing any "timey-wimey" stuff. It's still a cool scenario, I just feel like there's something I am not getting about all of this.

Anyway, Daathiel is pretty much a non-combatant in most parties, but once did help slay a dragon by drawing his dagger and giving the rogue a flank (kind of showing a flaw in the flanking rules - the dragon should have been able to say "No, I completely ignore the bard and focus on the rogue.")

Given Daathiel being inspired by The Doctor, I wish that I could be engaging in arguments with Vector about us being temporal anomalies... but it just doesn't seem to fit with this mission.

I have been in scenarios with time travel where such Inevitable interference would make sense. Here, unless there's something I missed, we're not affecting causality in any way.

I get that Vector is a cool mythic foe with a host of interesting abilities - I just don't get thematically why he is here as we aren't doing any "timey-wimey" stuff. It's still a cool scenario, I just feel like there's something I am not getting about all of this.

I think he's talking about future events. Not that we're changing our own past, but that we're changing the future. Note that he's talking about probable causality.

Translated, his initial speech would just be something like "You did something nobody anywhere predicted, and we can't tell what's likely to happen next. We're going to undo what you did and wipe your name from the records for the good of the universe."

His second speech would be "You don't understand how the game of planes works, and you're upsetting everyone's plans. Die now."

Anyway, Daathiel is pretty much a non-combatant in most parties, but once did help slay a dragon by drawing his dagger and giving the rogue a flank (kind of showing a flaw in the flanking rules - the dragon should have been able to say "No, I completely ignore the bard and focus on the rogue.")

"Excuse me? No, you do NOT get to ignore me sir!"

Meanwhile, Lichaam failed to CdG a paralyzed cultist twice in a row. Someone else eventually came along and nonlethaled them down.

I just realized that I have not used the blur effect that Vector is under so I will reflect that from now onwards.

I just realized that I have not used the blur effect that Vector is under so I will reflect that from now onwards.

The big guy is currently blurred? Lichaam has a fix for that.

Kyron, 36/40, stoneskin 10/150

Daathiel, 35/40, stoneskin 20/150

Daathiel took his turn here - he activated a wand.

Yes, Lichaam just boosted a 25gp scroll high enough to break SR 31. Faerie Fire does not allow a save, just SR, and it specifically works against Blur.

How much did the Plane of Fire do against the enemy party this turn?
EDIT: Not enough, apparently, but something.

"Kyron, once we get back to the Material Plane, could you show me how you make your spells Persistent? I believe I need to focus some of my practice on that, rather than my ability to speak to animals. It hasn't been quite as useful as I'd hoped. Apparently animals know less than popular literature would have you believe."

Will be retraining a feat to Persistent Spell, to help satisfy the requirements for Loremaster.

"Yes, definitely. It it certainly handy for getting spells to stick."

"I have now spent two turns sitting outside of time. I will lose two more turns before this is over."

"I'm truly, truly regretful that I can't stand in front of this creature and swing a sword at it for you."

Only red axiomite remaining and it’s dazed so give me two actions everyone against it! ;-D

Done. Also removed the two dead combatants from the map.

Am I interpreting the map right, that Fendahl can attack the remaining axiomite without flying? It's at the 40' mark, but Fendahl is 15' tall with a 15' reach and would be standing 10' above "ground level".

If there is still a need, Fendahl and Rajah h will move to engage the last...

The other axiomite apparently had more than 213 hp, and this one's only taken between 200 and 218 damage. He probably still needs another good hit or two.

Daathiel actually has 3 actions as he is up before Axiomite and Caduceus is up twice.

I think Yanndu has a second turn still as well. Unless I'm missing something, he only took one action here.

Isah pops into existence once again, as Kyron hurls another acidball at the remaining axiomite and Daathiel goes on defense.

"...okay, what did I miss?" he asks, looking down. The broken body of Vector lies at Isah's feet, when only moments before he had been shouting and attacking.

It seems like this would be the first place Hshurha would look for Ranginori, really. I'm guessing whatever defenses he had ages ago didn't hold up terribly well, so he'd be vulnerable here.

Of course, Lichaam doesn't immediately think of this - he's too busy taking notes on a sight not likely to have been seen by mortals since ever. After all, the disagreement that got everyone sealed happened when mortals first started burning down each other's huts, so they probably weren't exactly roaming the planes at that point.

...does this scene count as "exploring an ancient site"? It's been abandoned long enough, but I don't know if this is "exploring" it enough.

Also, I'd like to point out that Ranginori would qualify as a "named NPC scholar, archaeologist, extraplanar authority, or similar figure". Think we could get him a Sage Jewel? Not seriously asking this one

The forge counts as exploring an ancient site.

The forge counts as exploring an ancient site.

Not quite ancient enough. The original occupants had to have abandoned it at least 1000 years ago. Kandirion's pyre blew up around 900 years ago.

The timeframes here are nigh-unimaginable. The first date on the calendar is nearly 10,000 years ago. We know there were a couple of presumably-long-lived empires before that, which took over after overthrowing an entire species and their long-lived empire(s?). And Ranginori was last seen long before that. We're talking about someone for whom the concept of "little walking bags of dirt and water that eventually stop moving" was a recent development (before he was sealed.) I'm just going to assume there's a tongues or truespeech effect going on here somewhere, because Taldane is a comparatively-new language. We don't even know if the concept of a "spell" existed at that point! It makes discussion of anything but generalities rather difficult.

As for other questions... probably nothing Lichaam would actually think of or ask.
1) Anything about the world before Ranginori was sealed - this seems like something that could get him annoyed and/or angry. Angry storms tend to smite, accidentally or otherwise. We also don't have any real point of reference into this time period, so whatever he could tell us wouldn't mean much.*
2) Anything after Ranginori was sealed - how would he know? This is the largest category we have any point of reference into.
3) His plans - pretty sure we're going to find that out (in PF2, of course,) and he can't have anything concrete yet. "Find a library, rebuild my home, and see if my minions still exist" is probably a decent summary.
4) Won't Hshurha look for him here? - Lichaam wouldn't think of this
5) "Do you have any piles of gold lying around we could loot?" - speaking of getting smote... Also applies to artifacts and (sadly) magical methods that could be made into spells.

*some exclusions apply. Hypothetical scholars for whom any knowledge is good knowledge would still find it nice, but random tidbits like "Bjondorad the Big married the daughter of Killadon" doesn't do much for the big picture without a framework into which to slot it.

GM Nowruz, I'd like to recruit Ranginori as an ally of the Dark Archive, i.e. "Recruit a named NPC scholar, knowledgeable spellcaster, or similar figure to the Dark Archive. Recruitment requires a Diplomacy or Knowledge (arcana) check with a DC equal to 15 plus your character level."

Knowledge Arcana, DC 27, Take 10: 10 + 18 = 28

Well, this be honest a demi-god is potentially a little outside the NPC realm but Isah would work well I think. :-D

Perfect! make it Isah then! :)

"During downtime after the mission, in addition to training with Kyron, I will take my time crafting a scholarly treatise for publication."

T10 Craft (Scholarly Treatise), including Crafter's Fortune: 10 + 16 + 5 = 31 75 gp

"This one will be titled "Morality by Degree: The Use, Limitations, and History of Detect Evil and Similar Effects". Caduceus gets a copy specially delivered to him."

I really extended the end as it’s super boring and mundane in the scenario .. i change it so that you really feel what you’ve accomplished. :-D

My next post will conclude the scenario.

Please check all your reporting information on the slides.

Thanks

Please check all your reporting information on the slides.

Reporting info is good, but without seeing the chronicle I can't fill in the "Purchases" column.

I pasted the relevant CS information into the slides.

Great times. Thanks GM and all.

I pasted the relevant CS information into the slides.

It's mostly the cash I'm worried about at the moment. Lichaam's spending 2841gp in consumables and retraining (including those two scrolls of invisibility sphere we never used), and he's eying a 20k luckstone.

He came into this scenario with 5344gp, 9sp, and 4cp, and I don't know whether the math is favorable to making the big purchase now or going with a smaller one. I doubt the math works, but it's worth checking.

I would really like to buy that wish, but Lichaam is also short on Prestige and needs to spend another 5 for more retraining before his next levelup (assuming that ever happens, of course.) It could work if his next adventure is a 4PP module, but I don't want to make that kind of assumption.

Thanks everyone! And thanks for running! I'd been looking for an opportunity to play this scenario for ages. It also puts Kyron up to level 15.

Thanks everyone! And thanks for running! I'd been looking for an opportunity to play this scenario for ages. It also puts Kyron up to level 15.

Congrats! One more for Fendahl to hit 15th.

Thanks everyone! And thanks for running! I'd been looking for an opportunity to play this scenario for ages. It also puts Kyron up to level 15.

Good for Kyron. Have fun with those level 8 spells (okay, level 8 fireballs).

Lichaam is going to be at 38 XP (one point from level 14).

Daathiel will with this chronicle be at 41 XP, so still level 14 - which is good as I am hoping he gets a chance to do Academy of Secrets eventually.

Please check all your reporting information on the slides.

Thanks

Good to go. Thanks for running this.

Daathiel will with this chronicle be at 41 XP, so still level 14 - which is good as I am hoping he gets a chance to do Academy of Secrets eventually.

Is 41xp the highest xp you can play academy? I thought it was 33 or so for the seeker path. But I never looked into it.

Daathiel wrote:

Daathiel will with this chronicle be at 41 XP, so still level 14 - which is good as I am hoping he gets a chance to do Academy of Secrets eventually.

Is 41xp the highest xp you can play academy? I thought it was 33 or so for the seeker path. But I never looked into it.

I think you're thinking of the "Seeker Arc" adventures. Eyes of the Ten and Wardens of the Reborn Forge.

Academy of Secrets is one of the traditional 3XP modules, runnable for levels 12-14.

Oh crud you are right. Reborn Forge was the one. Nothing to see here. Disregard the confused troll Druid :)

Truly an epic ending! Sorry I was not able to contribute all that much.

Looks like all Cad's posted info is correct.

Oh, and Vector's "punch you into the future" attack? Lichaam actually has a boon that lets him do that to himself once. Seeing an enemy attacking with something that's supposedly a beneficial effect was interesting.

Truly an epic ending! Sorry I was not able to contribute all that much.

Have you considered making your backup bow magic? 2000gp shouldn't be too bad of an expense at this level.

Heck, Lichaam put some thought into making his dagger magic. I didn't end up doing that, because if Lichaam is fighting in melee combat, we're all dead anyway; nonmagical flank partner is all it's good for.

Have you considered making your backup bow magic?

I may have to do that, but the healer-build thus far has worked better when he is in the mix for channels and the impending Channeled Revival feat (essentially Breath of Life). Plinking away from range makes it tough to make the most of those abilities. Besides, even with a magic bow, I would not have been hitting anything either.

This build was reliable and viable for 1-11 PFS. It kept a lot of characters alive. That said, I may have to re-assess how to move forward through Seeker-level content. The four level dip into paly now has a tremendous effect on the oracle options, and it shows.

I may have to do that, but the healer-build thus far has worked better when he is in the mix for channels and the impending Channeled Revival feat (essentially Breath of Life). Plinking away from range makes it tough to make the most of those abilities. Besides, even with a magic bow, I would not have been hitting anything either.

I was just mentioning it as a rarely-used option, definitely not a primary choice. But looking at the attack bonus... yeah, good point.

Not sure what to recommend for the future.

shaventalz wrote:

Have you considered making your backup bow magic?

I may have to do that, but the healer-build thus far has worked better when he is in the mix for channels and the impending Channeled Revival feat (essentially Breath of Life). Plinking away from range makes it tough to make the most of those abilities. Besides, even with a magic bow, I would not have been hitting anything either.

This build was reliable and viable for 1-11 PFS. It kept a lot of characters alive. That said, I may have to re-assess how to move forward through Seeker-level content. The four level dip into paly now has a tremendous effect on the oracle options, and it shows.

retrain them... all of them [/Palpatine voice]

retrain them... all of them [/Palpatine voice]

"Retraining is expensive. Society bylaws require me to use a fair number of favors I've accumulated to acquire a trainer... despite having Kyron right there and ready to train me."

Lichaam shakes his head in disgust. "That kind of thoughtless nonsense is why I could never be Lawful."