GM Ietsuna's 10-15 Tapestry's Trial (Inactive)

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Grand Lodge

Male Elf slayer 3/Un Rogue 6/snakebite brawler 2, HP 103 AC 23(27), T 17(21), FF 16(20), F +14, R +19, W +12, Initi. +11, CMD 23, Perception +21, lowlight(+24 traps)

Yanndu...has the engram "told" you anything? Why will it not leave the library? This doesn't bode well...

Sovereign Court

Ranger 2/Rogue 10 | HP 85/99| AC 29/ 22(23) touch/23(24)flatfooted | Sneak Attack +5d6 | Resiliency 1/day F+16,R+22,W+13 ((1/day can reroll Will save)| Init. +10(+12)| Perc +19/24*(+21/26)| Evasion | Trap Sense +4 | Improved Uncanny Dodge

Shel thinks for a minute. ”Since this engram is the possession of the library, do we need to check it out like a library book? I say we ask the Librarian and see if he would allow it,” she says, shrugging her shoulders.

Dark Archive

Male N Elf Psychic 13 - Init. +4, Senses Low-Light Vision Perception +22 detect scrying, HA, AC 26/ touch 16/ ff 23 Deskari's Wing; hp 80/80 temp 14/14; F+11, R+11, W+14, Speed 35 ft., Climb 20 ft., Fly 60 ft. Carried: LogicRod, StaffMinArc, LckyHrshoe, Fr-LfClvr; Buffs: shield, fly, resist fire 30, det scry, mg armr, flse life, see invis, hghtnd awrnss, telbnd x2; Alc: antitx/plg/verm/syrup

"Yes Shel. Please ask the librarian. Thanks! I have already been imparted with the vision and passed it to you all."


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Shel goes to speak to the librarian who makes a cursory note as to your possession of the library before granting you permission to take it. The engram stops fighting to stay.

you return to the city proper and being your journey back to the Empty Court. Along the way you are intercepted by Eleven-Sun-Truth. There is excitment in their voice as they speak to you.

My superiors have scheduled a tribunal to review the Hao Jin case. It is set for tomorrow which leads me to believe there could be a monumental development. Also, if I have understood my superiors remarks the judges will be people of considerable influence. As you have acted as Hao Jin's advocates so far I had hoped that you may agree to attend the tribunal.

You resume your trip back to Hao Jin reuniting her with the engrams. My thanks. I will need the rest of today with these to devise the required ritual. If you will excuse me.


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Bump. Will you stay or return to Absalom?

Grand Lodge

Male Elf slayer 3/Un Rogue 6/snakebite brawler 2, HP 103 AC 23(27), T 17(21), FF 16(20), F +14, R +19, W +12, Initi. +11, CMD 23, Perception +21, lowlight(+24 traps)

I think it is an honour and a unique opportunity to see domething such as this. I think we should stay.

Dark Archive

Male N Elf Psychic 13 - Init. +4, Senses Low-Light Vision Perception +22 detect scrying, HA, AC 26/ touch 16/ ff 23 Deskari's Wing; hp 80/80 temp 14/14; F+11, R+11, W+14, Speed 35 ft., Climb 20 ft., Fly 60 ft. Carried: LogicRod, StaffMinArc, LckyHrshoe, Fr-LfClvr; Buffs: shield, fly, resist fire 30, det scry, mg armr, flse life, see invis, hghtnd awrnss, telbnd x2; Alc: antitx/plg/verm/syrup

Definitely staying for the proceedings; Yanndu is also willing to serve as a witness.

"We would be honored to attend and serve in any capacity you see fit, Eleven-Sun-Truth."

Sovereign Court

Ranger 2/Rogue 10 | HP 85/99| AC 29/ 22(23) touch/23(24)flatfooted | Sneak Attack +5d6 | Resiliency 1/day F+16,R+22,W+13 ((1/day can reroll Will save)| Init. +10(+12)| Perc +19/24*(+21/26)| Evasion | Trap Sense +4 | Improved Uncanny Dodge

Shel agrees with the group. ”This sorry should be recorded for the Lodge and for posterity.”


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You have the remainder of the day to yourselves. You can hang out with Hao Jin, you can go shopping, whatever. Let me know if you want to do anything exciting.

Sovereign Court

Ranger 2/Rogue 10 | HP 85/99| AC 29/ 22(23) touch/23(24)flatfooted | Sneak Attack +5d6 | Resiliency 1/day F+16,R+22,W+13 ((1/day can reroll Will save)| Init. +10(+12)| Perc +19/24*(+21/26)| Evasion | Trap Sense +4 | Improved Uncanny Dodge

Shel would like to take the opportunity to observe Hao Jin working on repairing the tapestry, if she want making too much of an imposition.


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Hao Jin sits with the engrams reliving the memories and working on creating the ritual.

Liberty's Edge

Male CG Halfling Cavalier (Gendarme) 9.1 | HP: 85/85 | AC: 26 (13 Tch, 25 FF) | CMB: +12, CMD: 24 (26 Bull Rush) | F: +11, R: +7, W: +6 (+2 vs Fear) | Init: +1 | Perc: +5, SM: +4 | Speed 15ft (40ft mounted) | Daily Abilities: Challenge: 3/3, Danger Ward: F – R – W | Active conditions: Mounted

Pooka sits idly while Luna curls up at his feet. The two of them wait patiently, though Luna is much better at it than Pooka. The halfling runs scenarios through his mind of what this tribunal will be like, and how someone like him might even be able to help.

Will we be speaking on Hao Jin's behalf? Is this to answer for the energy siphoning she has done and all that she has done to create the tapestry? I'm not sure I have any authority on the matter, or that my opinion does, but it should be quite a sight to witness. To think of what has come from the prize from the Ruby Phoenix Tournament. he muses.

Dark Archive

Male N Elf Psychic 13 - Init. +4, Senses Low-Light Vision Perception +22 detect scrying, HA, AC 26/ touch 16/ ff 23 Deskari's Wing; hp 80/80 temp 14/14; F+11, R+11, W+14, Speed 35 ft., Climb 20 ft., Fly 60 ft. Carried: LogicRod, StaffMinArc, LckyHrshoe, Fr-LfClvr; Buffs: shield, fly, resist fire 30, det scry, mg armr, flse life, see invis, hghtnd awrnss, telbnd x2; Alc: antitx/plg/verm/syrup

"Hao Jin. A moment please?"


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Hao Jin looks up from her work. Yes sir?

Dark Archive

Male N Elf Psychic 13 - Init. +4, Senses Low-Light Vision Perception +22 detect scrying, HA, AC 26/ touch 16/ ff 23 Deskari's Wing; hp 80/80 temp 14/14; F+11, R+11, W+14, Speed 35 ft., Climb 20 ft., Fly 60 ft. Carried: LogicRod, StaffMinArc, LckyHrshoe, Fr-LfClvr; Buffs: shield, fly, resist fire 30, det scry, mg armr, flse life, see invis, hghtnd awrnss, telbnd x2; Alc: antitx/plg/verm/syrup

"The last engram we retrieved appears to suggest the Tapestry is powered by the energy of departing souls from those who die within the demiplane. Could you please clarify how this process works and the reasons why this came to be?"


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The multiverse renews itself thanks to the cycle of souls, in which souls gradually meld with the Outer Planes, are eroded by the Maelstrom, and return to the Antipode to create new souls. My demiplane did not have the benefit of new matter and energy being infused into it in the same way, so I borrowed trace amounts from those who perished on the demiplane—all in order to sustain the life-giving environment. The process ultimately didn’t impact those souls’ afterlives, though it did infuriate an olethros psychopomp who refused to accept any of my explanations. In retrospect I know that there were better techniques but I had not yet discovered them when I made the tapestry and I stand by my assessment that the demiplane was not impacting the River of Souls in any significant way.

The Exchange

| Male N Medium Human Shaman 11 | HP 106/106 Maka 53/53 | AC 21, T 9, FF 21 | CMB +5 CMD 15 | F +12 R +8 W +23 | Init +10 | Perc +25 | Speed 30ft fly 40ft| Channel Pos. Energy 5/5 Monstrous Insight 7/7 | Active Conditions: Overland Flight, Ant Haul, Life Bubble

What became of that psychopomp? How do you know it didn't impact their afterlifes?


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The psychopomp reported to her superiors as she felt she should and it is among the reasons why I am here in Axis in the position I am in. As for how I know it was not impacting their afterlives, that is down to my intensive and extensive research.

Dark Archive

Male N Elf Psychic 13 - Init. +4, Senses Low-Light Vision Perception +22 detect scrying, HA, AC 26/ touch 16/ ff 23 Deskari's Wing; hp 80/80 temp 14/14; F+11, R+11, W+14, Speed 35 ft., Climb 20 ft., Fly 60 ft. Carried: LogicRod, StaffMinArc, LckyHrshoe, Fr-LfClvr; Buffs: shield, fly, resist fire 30, det scry, mg armr, flse life, see invis, hghtnd awrnss, telbnd x2; Alc: antitx/plg/verm/syrup

"Can you produce any evidence to support your claim of noninterference with the souls? I suspect this subject might come up during the hearing..."


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It is only my word at this point. The mechanism only siphoned a negligible portion of an escaping soul's essence to fuel the demiplane’s magic; the process by which the demiplane actively trapped souls was a malfunction and never my intention.


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You have an opportunity to gather information etc that may assist you in the tribunal. You may roll only once and get all of the information for the DC you hit and below. If you have an ability that allows you to gather information quickly you may roll on two checks. make sense?

Diplomacy or Sense Motive to learns rumors by conversing with bystanders.

DC 17+:
A likely judge is Tchekua, an apkallu who was part of Hao Jin’s first tribunal. You can make a Knowledge Planes check to learn about apkallus. Tchekua was fairly sympathetic to Hao Jin centuries ago and might still be. There’s also word that one of the judges is arriving from another plane for this event, which is rare.

DC 25+:
Tchekua is an enthusiast of mortal history, having studied and catalogued the lengthy timelines of thousands of worlds. He is an avid archivist who understands the merits of preserving and understanding the past. The prevailing rumor of the off-world judge is that they’re a representative of the Boneyard, based on the group of psychopomps seen alighting and entering through the courthouse’s back entrance. If it’s true, the psychopomps would be especially interested in anything Hao Jin did that influenced the River of Souls (the means by which the dead reach Pharasma for their final judgment).

DC 33+:
Tchekua has a slight bias toward those who speak in ornate ways, and he’s readily wooed by those who demonstrate sincere passion. The secretive psychopomp is a yamaraj named Zahal (yamarajes are dragon-like beings considered the strongest psychopomps) who specifically requested a position on the tribunal upon learning of it.

Knowledge (Planes or Religion) to identify obscure names and references you overhear.

DC 17+:
Hao Jin’s demiplane offended many axiomites concerned with the stability of the cosmos, but apparently it perturbed even Otolmens, a primal inevitable demigod of Axis concerned with machinery, mathematics, and physics. Bystanders believe they saw the Tenth-by-Third, the herald of Otolmens, enter the courthouse, and it seems likely the herald will serve as one of the judges.

DC 25+:
Tenth-by-Third is dogmatic even by the standard of inevitables. The scent of chaos offends the herald, whereas interacting with lawful-aligned beings sets the herald at ease. Some bystanders believe that the yamaraj Zahal may be serving as one of the other judges. A yamaraj is an extremely powerful dragon-like psychopomp that operates one of the Boneyard’s courts to determine souls’ fates. Any psychopomp judge would take offense at any interference in the River of Souls, so such a topic should be handled carefully if it’s brought up.

DC 33+:
The herald Tenth-by-Third respects logical arguments and those backed by quantitative data, whereas they interpret impassioned arguments as muddied by emotional interference. As for Zahal, few understand her, considering her a wild card. In the Boneyard, she’s as often chided for her leniency—even for crimes that others would consider unforgivable—as respected for her grim verdicts, though such decisions almost always come down to the context of the deeds.

Knowledge (local) or Profession (Barrister) to learn more about the tribunal’s structure.

DC 17+:
This tribunal operates as more of a hearing in which the judges listen to any statements from the subject and those who can speak to the subject’s character, deeds, and motivations. The judges control the proceedings’ tempo, often conversing among themselves before calling on the subject or witnesses to provide additional information.

DC 22+:
It’s customary for the tribunal’s subject to have legal representation, both to assist her and any witnesses, but nobody knows who is serving as Hao Jin’s counsel (if anyone). Her case might suffer if she chooses to represent herself.

Sovereign Court

Ranger 2/Rogue 10 | HP 85/99| AC 29/ 22(23) touch/23(24)flatfooted | Sneak Attack +5d6 | Resiliency 1/day F+16,R+22,W+13 ((1/day can reroll Will save)| Init. +10(+12)| Perc +19/24*(+21/26)| Evasion | Trap Sense +4 | Improved Uncanny Dodge

Diplomacy 1d20 + 20 ⇒ (20) + 20 = 40

Shel takes the opportunity to talk to the locals and see what they are saying about the situation.

Heading to bed. Please read the three spoilers under Diplomacy. Thanks!

Grand Lodge

Male Elf slayer 3/Un Rogue 6/snakebite brawler 2, HP 103 AC 23(27), T 17(21), FF 16(20), F +14, R +19, W +12, Initi. +11, CMD 23, Perception +21, lowlight(+24 traps)

ugh...of all the skills Rallas has, these are his weak point...oh well..

Rallas mingles amongst the locals and tries to ferret out some information, but they give him nothing.

know local: 1d20 + 6 + 1 ⇒ (1) + 6 + 1 = 8+1 is from guidance from my jade wayfinder...can't hurt to get a +1, right?

beautiful time for a 1...no loss there, I reckon...

The Exchange

| Male N Medium Human Shaman 11 | HP 106/106 Maka 53/53 | AC 21, T 9, FF 21 | CMB +5 CMD 15 | F +12 R +8 W +23 | Init +10 | Perc +25 | Speed 30ft fly 40ft| Channel Pos. Energy 5/5 Monstrous Insight 7/7 | Active Conditions: Overland Flight, Ant Haul, Life Bubble

knowledge (religion): 1d20 + 18 ⇒ (15) + 18 = 33 Ograk uses guidance and Yanduu’s telepathic link to convey the not so great information he can glean about the judges.

Feel free to open the spoilers Ograk met

Liberty's Edge

Male CG Halfling Cavalier (Gendarme) 9.1 | HP: 85/85 | AC: 26 (13 Tch, 25 FF) | CMB: +12, CMD: 24 (26 Bull Rush) | F: +11, R: +7, W: +6 (+2 vs Fear) | Init: +1 | Perc: +5, SM: +4 | Speed 15ft (40ft mounted) | Daily Abilities: Challenge: 3/3, Danger Ward: F – R – W | Active conditions: Mounted

Unfortunately I can't help in in way here... Nice rolls though!

Pooka does his best to help. He meanders around, talking with a few of the others that are doing the same. The charming little halfling manages to get into several conversations and makes a handful of new friends very quickly. Unfortunately when he tries to ask about the hubbub around the tribunal he is met with blank stares and shoulder shrugs.

At least the others are having more luck.

"So one of the judges prefers impassioned speeches while another prefers logical arguments and is already peeved by the meddling with soul energy. This is going to be an interesting tribunal, to be sure. I am equal parts torn to want to witness and be a part of this thing with such powerful and eternal beings, and to just be back at my farm with my dogs where life is much simpler."

"So what is our end game here? We still need Hao Jin's help in repairing the tapestry. Innocent lives are at stake. If there is anything to plea for passionately, that is is. However questionable the energy source is for the tapestry, we know that thousands of creatures will die if we do nothing. Perhaps we need to make our case from two sides. One with the passion of a group trying to save the lives of thousands of creatures, and a second with the math behind the amount of energy per soul and the measureable, or lacktherof, impact on each soul. Once the creatures inside the demiplane are safe, we can determine how to safely proceed with powering the tapestry and what to do with the souls that reside in it currently."

Dark Archive

Male N Elf Psychic 13 - Init. +4, Senses Low-Light Vision Perception +22 detect scrying, HA, AC 26/ touch 16/ ff 23 Deskari's Wing; hp 80/80 temp 14/14; F+11, R+11, W+14, Speed 35 ft., Climb 20 ft., Fly 60 ft. Carried: LogicRod, StaffMinArc, LckyHrshoe, Fr-LfClvr; Buffs: shield, fly, resist fire 30, det scry, mg armr, flse life, see invis, hghtnd awrnss, telbnd x2; Alc: antitx/plg/verm/syrup

Sense Motive about the rumors: 1d20 + 16 ⇒ (9) + 16 = 25
Knowledge The Planes, HA, APKALLUS: 1d20 + 17 + 2 ⇒ (2) + 17 + 2 = 21
I'm a bit confused if this guy is an apkallus or psychopomp in disguise... are apkallus a type of psychopomps?

Knowledge The Planes, HA, Hypercognition, obscure names or references: 1d20 + 17 + 2 + 10 ⇒ (14) + 17 + 2 + 10 = 43

Knowledge Local, HA, Hypercognition, tribunal structure: 1d20 + 18 + 2 + 10 ⇒ (9) + 18 + 2 + 10 = 39

Yanndu reviews all the information gathered by the group, and nods to Shel when she informs him that Tchekua has a penchant for orators displaying passion, a fact he himself did not know already. "Shel, I believe you should open with an impassioned plea for the people residing within the Tapestry, and mention that the details of Hao Jin's past achievements and mistakes will be handled later during the proceedings. Try to grab all of the judges' attention towards the fact that the most impacted beings here are the residents of the Tapestry, and that they will all be victims of a disaster if Hao Jin is not permitted to assist our world into repairing the Tapestry. Keep it simple. Don't lie and don't embellish. Tell them they will be hearing arguments in favor and against the Grand Sorceress' past actions, but that the very purposes of these proceedings, the one thing all the judges should keep in mind, is that we are trying to avert a disaster of a scope both personal and cosmic for thousands of sentient beings and souls inhabiting the Tapestry."

Yanndu pauses.

"As for the second part of the proceedings, I intend to present the facts we have uncovered in an unbiased way. I will be absolutely truthful and factual in my delivery. I believe we are dealing with beings of nigh godlike powers, and they will not be fooled with trickery and hyperbole. I will present the facts as I see them, and even point out to the limits of our current knowledge. The judges can fill the gaps. I have utmost confidence in the orderly alignment of the multiverse and its caretakers."

Yanndu looks at everyone. "I volunteer to co-represent Hao Jin in these proceedings. I believe Shel should join me in order to get through to Tchekua, as he cares less about facts and more about the big picture. If any of you have something to add or contribute, you would also be most welcomed to join and do so, but I have the firm belief at this time that, regardless of the past wisdom or lack thereof displayed by the Grand Sorceress, she should at this time be allowed to follow us to Golarion immediately to fix the Tapestry or put an end to it safely. Are we all in agreement?"

The Exchange

| Male N Medium Human Shaman 11 | HP 106/106 Maka 53/53 | AC 21, T 9, FF 21 | CMB +5 CMD 15 | F +12 R +8 W +23 | Init +10 | Perc +25 | Speed 30ft fly 40ft| Channel Pos. Energy 5/5 Monstrous Insight 7/7 | Active Conditions: Overland Flight, Ant Haul, Life Bubble
Yanndu wrote:
she should at this time be allowed to follow us to Golarion immediately to fix the Tapestry or put an end to it safely. Are we all in agreement

I do not see a reasonable alternative. To let the tapestry fail, with safely mitigating the consequencies, would be a far worse alternative and send many more prematurely to the boneyard.

Sovereign Court

Ranger 2/Rogue 10 | HP 85/99| AC 29/ 22(23) touch/23(24)flatfooted | Sneak Attack +5d6 | Resiliency 1/day F+16,R+22,W+13 ((1/day can reroll Will save)| Init. +10(+12)| Perc +19/24*(+21/26)| Evasion | Trap Sense +4 | Improved Uncanny Dodge

Shel had no objection to that plan of action.

Grand Lodge

Male Elf slayer 3/Un Rogue 6/snakebite brawler 2, HP 103 AC 23(27), T 17(21), FF 16(20), F +14, R +19, W +12, Initi. +11, CMD 23, Perception +21, lowlight(+24 traps)

Sounds like a solid approach. From our findings, these judges might not like those that are...more free with their actions...on the wild side.


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General rumours. Apkallus =/= Psychopomp

You secure lodgings for the night and spend the evening doing whatever small tasks each of you choose. Come the morning Eleven-Sun-Truth escorts you through the crowd, which parts smoothly and politely to
make way. Once inside the courthouse’s expansive, three-story entry hall you are surrounded by a host of barristers, bureaucrats, scribes, and more are discussing a combination of legal theory and the upcoming trials for the day. Eleven-Sun-Truth requests that you remain in the general area while it checks in with its superiors, mentioning that the trial’s set to begin in about 2 hours.

Notes on how the trial works. The trial is one continuous scene divided into 6 parts to make it manageable. In each phase there will be a skill check. If one of you chooses to be Hao Jin's advocate that is possible but not necessary.

A PC serving as Hao Jin’s counsel cannot serve as a witness but can assist during each scene by assisting the witness PC or protecting that PC from the judge’s inquiries. Each of these requires a Profession (barrister) check, and an untrained PC can use any of the following in place of Profession (barrister): the highest of their Intelligence, Wisdom, or Charisma modifiers; or a modifier equal to their ranks in Diplomacy, Knowledge (local), or Sense Motive, whichever is highest. Assisting a witness typically involves asking the witness a question that helps steer the testimony or clarifies a fact.

The time comes and everyone with an interest files into the courtroom. The room quickly settles and the trial opens.

Tenth-By-Third opens the precedings.

The basis of this trial is the nature of this mortal’s demiplane, which violates at least fifty-three firm principles of astral safety, in turn triggering twelve separate instances of multidimensional uncertainty and instability. Safer techniques existed by which to achieve a similar result, yet she embraced an unintuitive and untested methodology—all compounded by a sorcerous disregard for cosmic calculus.

The herald details some of these consistencies in Hao Jin’s behavior before Zahal encourages it to get to the point—

Tenth-By-Third gets back on track. Hao Jin’s techniques were irresponsible and she did not respect arcane theory. Furthermore her sorcerer spellcasting is too unpredictable to be trusted with demiplane creation.

The Exchange

| Male N Medium Human Shaman 11 | HP 106/106 Maka 53/53 | AC 21, T 9, FF 21 | CMB +5 CMD 15 | F +12 R +8 W +23 | Init +10 | Perc +25 | Speed 30ft fly 40ft| Channel Pos. Energy 5/5 Monstrous Insight 7/7 | Active Conditions: Overland Flight, Ant Haul, Life Bubble
GM wrote:

A PC serving as Hao Jin’s counsel cannot serve as a witness but can assist during each scene by assisting the witness PC or protecting that PC from the judge’s inquiries. Each of these requires a Profession (barrister) check, and an untrained PC can use any of the following in place of Profession (barrister): the highest of their Intelligence, Wisdom, or Charisma modifiers; or a modifier equal to their ranks in Diplomacy, Knowledge (local), or Sense Motive, whichever is highest. Assisting a witness typically involves asking the witness a question that helps steer the testimony or clarifies a fact.

Ograk's modifier +15. I'd think he is probably not the best counsel, but we should probably pick someone.

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The basis of this trial is the nature of this mortal’s demiplane, which violates at least fifty-three firm principles of astral safety, in turn triggering twelve separate instances of multidimensional uncertainty and instability. Safer techniques existed by which to achieve a similar result, yet she embraced an unintuitive and untested methodology—all compounded by a sorcerous disregard for cosmic calculus.

The herald details some of these consistencies in Hao Jin’s behavior before Zahal encourages it to get to the point—

Tenth-By-Third gets back on track. Hao Jin’s techniques were irresponsible and she did not respect arcane theory. Furthermore her sorcerer spellcasting is too unpredictable to be trusted with demiplane creation.

Ograk quietly confers with his fellow pathfinders perhaps telepathicly if Yanndu's stuff still works.

It seems to me that the feat has not been replicated, before or since, so 'arcane theory' seems like a poor argument. She seems to be one of the most powerful mages Golarion has known, and the demiplane's existance alone, carved out of existing places, is testiment to that. Were she unable, she would not be sitting here in the tribunal!

Grand Lodge

Male Elf slayer 3/Un Rogue 6/snakebite brawler 2, HP 103 AC 23(27), T 17(21), FF 16(20), F +14, R +19, W +12, Initi. +11, CMD 23, Perception +21, lowlight(+24 traps)

Rallas nods his head as Ograk leads the defense of Hao Jin. He watches the judges reactions as his colleague speaks to gauge their reactions.

telepathic link if possible:
Perhaps we could try the angle that she did prove the arcane theory is possible, and that most experiments are never without risk, and shouldn't be punished for any unintentional errors

Liberty's Edge

Male CG Halfling Cavalier (Gendarme) 9.1 | HP: 85/85 | AC: 26 (13 Tch, 25 FF) | CMB: +12, CMD: 24 (26 Bull Rush) | F: +11, R: +7, W: +6 (+2 vs Fear) | Init: +1 | Perc: +5, SM: +4 | Speed 15ft (40ft mounted) | Daily Abilities: Challenge: 3/3, Danger Ward: F – R – W | Active conditions: Mounted

Ograk - The way that is worded, you can only use your number of ranks, not your actual modifier for those skills. Ok, I am going to try to act as Hao Jin's counsel. Everyone hold on to your butts...

The testimony of Tenth by third dances a bit on Pooka's strings of patience, but he contains himself. Feels a bit like you are cherry picking the strictest interpretation of laws to suit your case here, don't you think? Just because a safer measure existed doesn't mean one is required to use it. At one point, those untested techniques would have been considered unsafe because they were unknown. Also, Tenth by Third, your personal bias against the chaos of sorcery is showing a bit here...

If we are telepathically linked, then all of you would have heard my internal rebuttal. Feel free to use it as if it were your own thoughts :)

I think I am doing this right here, if I am wrong let me know. I will try to assist Ograk here (as opposed to protecting him from the judge's inquiries)

"Indeed, Pooka speaks up to assist his fellow pathfinder, "You mention these other methods as if they also weren't at one time deemed unsafe. Who is it that deems certain methods safe, and others unsafe? Were the other, safer methods available to Hao Jin at the time of the creation of the demi-plane? Your assertion that her sorcerous methods are too unpredictable is completely immaterial to this proceeding, and you only accuse her of it because it makes you uncomfortable. The facts are that despite how unpredictable you think it is, she succeeded in creating a demi-plane that has been stable for decades. Long enough that generations of inhabitants know nothing aside from their existence within the plane."

Trying to play up on facts here and arguing that Tenth by Third's accusation is not based on fact but opinion.

Barrister roll, Diplomacy ranks used for modifier: 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (9) + 7 = 16


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That is a fail (just) Pooka. No +2 for this round. Someone want to make a roll with a skill they think may be useful. For example spellcraft or knowledge arcana perhaps. Diplomacy, intimidate or bluff could also work. I will consider pretty much anything with the right roleplay.

Grand Lodge

Male Elf slayer 3/Un Rogue 6/snakebite brawler 2, HP 103 AC 23(27), T 17(21), FF 16(20), F +14, R +19, W +12, Initi. +11, CMD 23, Perception +21, lowlight(+24 traps)

okay...I have an idea....i'm going to study each judge to get the +1 for sense motive, then roll for each one, trying to get a feel for what each one wants, then communicate that to whoever is doing our speaking...sound like a plan? also, how many judges are there agan? is it three because of the word tribunal..just clarifying


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Three judges. Tchekua, Tenth-By-Third and Zahal

The Exchange

| Male N Medium Human Shaman 11 | HP 106/106 Maka 53/53 | AC 21, T 9, FF 21 | CMB +5 CMD 15 | F +12 R +8 W +23 | Init +10 | Perc +25 | Speed 30ft fly 40ft| Channel Pos. Energy 5/5 Monstrous Insight 7/7 | Active Conditions: Overland Flight, Ant Haul, Life Bubble

Tenth-By-Third is a judge and making arguements against her... fun

spellcraft: 1d20 + 17 ⇒ (10) + 17 = 27

If I recall Yanndu shared everything with us telepathically, so using that

GM wrote:
Yanndu experiences months of Hao Jin’s careful study of the tapestry weaver, and feel the mental weight of innumerable calculations as Hao Jin plans her own magnificent tapestry.

Ograk tries a simple opening statement,You argue there are safer techniques, but were these known to mortals at that time? Hao Jin remains one of the most powerful mortal mages to ever exist, and was so at the time of the creation of the tapestry. She acknowledges the short comings of the technique and wants to restore balance by fixing these mistakes, and has the technical acumen as one of the most powerful mages ever to do so. I am aware of no other demiplane in existance made from existing locations on the material plane, nor capable of even capable of devising such a powerful arcane ritual, nor can I name another mage who I'd rather have try this ritual. Months of careful study, and innumerable calculations went into this arcane feat. Were she unable, her deads would not have here in front of the tribunal!


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Ograk makes a spirited argument and Tenth-by-Third seems to be swayed by Ograk's words. Both Tchekua and Zahal also seems to be swayed.

Exceeded the DC by enough to influence all three.

Zahal speaks next. Consider the actions that followed: she used her untouchable redoubt to abduct mortals—as many as hundreds at a time. Was there just cause? Was there consent? Or was this the callous action of a sorcerer focused on her own goals rather than aware of the bigger picture?

The yamiraj voices further concerns tied to the demiplanes’ inhabitants, the conditions in which they lived after being kidnapped, the motivations that could possess a spellcaster to behave in this way, and the way in which this is reminiscent of a night hag poaching spirits from the River of Souls.

Grand Lodge

Male Elf slayer 3/Un Rogue 6/snakebite brawler 2, HP 103 AC 23(27), T 17(21), FF 16(20), F +14, R +19, W +12, Initi. +11, CMD 23, Perception +21, lowlight(+24 traps)

senseTchekua: 1d20 + 7 + 1 + 1 ⇒ (17) + 7 + 1 + 1 = 26
sense Tenth: 1d20 + 7 + 1 + 1 ⇒ (19) + 7 + 1 + 1 = 28
sense Zahal: 1d20 + 7 + 1 + 1 ⇒ (13) + 7 + 1 + 1 = 22

Rallas studies the judges' reactions for any insight into how to counter or influence their view

worth a shot at least right? second +1 is from my jade wayfi der


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Tchekua likes appeals to themes of history, posterity, or preserving the past, when a response is an emotional or grandiose appeal, when the response involves an anecdote, fable, or tale.

Tenth-by-Third likes a response that is highly technical, quantitative, or analytical and lawful auras.

Zahal likes PCs who openly worships Pharasma or consorts with psychopomps and when a response is novel, amusing, or mildly irreverent.

Grand Lodge

Male Elf slayer 3/Un Rogue 6/snakebite brawler 2, HP 103 AC 23(27), T 17(21), FF 16(20), F +14, R +19, W +12, Initi. +11, CMD 23, Perception +21, lowlight(+24 traps)

Rallas tells the others of his observations and thoughts.

We must base our defense like a trident...three points. The judges all have different biases or tendencies. I am going to try to focus on each as I present a case. he says as he moves forth and straightens himself before the assembled judges.

It is a rare honour to be able to talk to a gathering of judges such as yourself. For those that do not know me, I am Rallas Linnderil. I am here to advocate for Hao Jin, and by default, the Tapestry. I know that the Tapestry has caused a few...issues. The causes are beyond my ken. But would it not stand to reason to study the Tapestry a bit more to see if there is something there that can be improved upon or even perfected? To judge someone who has devoted so much to a singular cause be fair? There was no malicious intent. And the Tapestry has become home to many beings in the meantime. I have seen the good in these inhabitants firsthand. I myself have gone into the Tapestry to help them with their plights. And should we not also abide by the old adage....let those that have done no wrong be the one that casts the first stone? he says looking towards Tchekua.

bluff: 1d20 + 7 + 1 ⇒ (8) + 7 + 1 = 16

And I can appreciate the disturbance it has caused regarding the River of Souls. I am not a very religious man, but I would think that the Lady of the Graves wouldn't mind if some of those that are destined to meet her in the next world be delayed a bit by staying alive, would she? If not, she isn't the most gracious diety, is she? the elf says as he moves in front of Zahal.

bluff: 1d20 + 7 + 1 ⇒ (6) + 7 + 1 = 14


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Tchekua looks gravely at Rallas. Such attempts to deceive me will not succeed. Now what of these people abducted?

Zahal simply nods at Rallas.

Grand Lodge

Male Elf slayer 3/Un Rogue 6/snakebite brawler 2, HP 103 AC 23(27), T 17(21), FF 16(20), F +14, R +19, W +12, Initi. +11, CMD 23, Perception +21, lowlight(+24 traps)

I know nothing of the abduction, but can attest to their life now inside the Tapestry I assure you, I am not lying...I might not the most learned person, but that does not make me a liar.

Rallas did both the Hao Jin cataclysm and fragments of antiquity...as you well know about the second...lol

The Exchange

| Male N Medium Human Shaman 11 | HP 106/106 Maka 53/53 | AC 21, T 9, FF 21 | CMB +5 CMD 15 | F +12 R +8 W +23 | Init +10 | Perc +25 | Speed 30ft fly 40ft| Channel Pos. Energy 5/5 Monstrous Insight 7/7 | Active Conditions: Overland Flight, Ant Haul, Life Bubble

Ograk makes sure his holy symbol of Pharsama faces Zahal as he addresses the judges.

The peoples moved into the tapestry were indeed moved without their consent, but this has created a living history. These civilizations, which otherwise might not exist today, have flourished in their new environment. It is impossible to know what may have happened without the creation of the tapestry, but what we can say, is that these are thriving living people today, who owe their present existance to Hao Jin's creation of the tapestry, and if we do not allow Hao Jin to intervene, there is grave danger to their current lives.

diplomacy: 1d20 + 13 ⇒ (19) + 13 = 32


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Ograk again makes an argument that seems to have some resonance with the tribunal.

Six successes so far. Going well

Tchekua continues An enduring stone structure might survive for thousands of years, its carved walls and sheltered libraries preserving the lore of lost ages for all who follow. To have such sites swiped not only steals the past from future generations, but it also robs the present people of their cultural heritage.

Zahal finds this point curious, and Tchekua elaborates on how Hao Jin’s capturing sites for her own desires seems self-centered, may have harmed some of the creator cultures responsible for those sites, and ultimately paints Hao Jin as someone who doesn’t actually respect history.

The Exchange

| Male N Medium Human Shaman 11 | HP 106/106 Maka 53/53 | AC 21, T 9, FF 21 | CMB +5 CMD 15 | F +12 R +8 W +23 | Init +10 | Perc +25 | Speed 30ft fly 40ft| Channel Pos. Energy 5/5 Monstrous Insight 7/7 | Active Conditions: Overland Flight, Ant Haul, Life Bubble

Ograk looks expectingly at Yanndu, expecting he can give a much better lesson about the rich history that has been extensively chronicled by the pathfinder society because of Hao Jin's tapestry that follows the point he just made about the 'bubble in time' civilizations.


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Yanndu is away for a couple of days. I am happy to bot him, but I need someone to tell me which skill. I feel like it is a conflict since I know what skills will be the easiest to pass.

The Exchange

| Male N Medium Human Shaman 11 | HP 106/106 Maka 53/53 | AC 21, T 9, FF 21 | CMB +5 CMD 15 | F +12 R +8 W +23 | Init +10 | Perc +25 | Speed 30ft fly 40ft| Channel Pos. Energy 5/5 Monstrous Insight 7/7 | Active Conditions: Overland Flight, Ant Haul, Life Bubble

I was thinking knowledge history based on what the judge brought up and my reply

Sovereign Court

Ranger 2/Rogue 10 | HP 85/99| AC 29/ 22(23) touch/23(24)flatfooted | Sneak Attack +5d6 | Resiliency 1/day F+16,R+22,W+13 ((1/day can reroll Will save)| Init. +10(+12)| Perc +19/24*(+21/26)| Evasion | Trap Sense +4 | Improved Uncanny Dodge

Thats fine with me as well. That sounds perfect for Yaandu. Shel is simply sitting back and watching the happenings. We sort of jumped right in, so the time for Shel’s opening passed. As we are doing well, I don’t want to screw anything up.

Grand Lodge

Male Elf slayer 3/Un Rogue 6/snakebite brawler 2, HP 103 AC 23(27), T 17(21), FF 16(20), F +14, R +19, W +12, Initi. +11, CMD 23, Perception +21, lowlight(+24 traps)

yeah sounds good to me too. sorry i ain't much help here...did what i could with my skills. knowledge and social skills aren't Rallas' strong suit...

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