| Storm Dragon |
Jereru was correct, I completely missed his submission. I still keep my top two (Apemantus and Reggie), but I quite like the look of Sebastian as well, a bit better than Randall; Soulknives are rad, and it's rare to see an RPG character who's just a nice, humble person. Jereru is also a member of the "reliable poster" club, to boot.
| Lila the Black |
I’ll be without internet access for a period, so please bot my character during my absence. I applied for assisted-rate access, but the process is taking a while. I’m hoping to be back online in a week or so; if things drag out beyond two weeks, I’ll do my best to find a way to hop online long enough to give an update.
| Apemantus Oldcastle |
In case it’s helpful— In my Profile there is a tab on Sasserine with a few places where members of the group, or Lavinia Vanderboren, could have met me. Lady Vanderboren could have tasked a Halfling Kova to seek me out like she did the other PCs (and I arrive a day late) — or, if it’s preferred, one of the PCs can suggest to Lady Vanderboren, assuming the group gets another task, my inclusion for the next job. Or obviously if our DM has a better way to introduce me, I’m certainly game. Just let me know.
| Sebastian Crenshaw |
Alright, so I made the character a while ago and I'm reviewing it to grasp the mechanics.
If any of you knows better, Is like to expose some doubts I have about the build, and see if I'm on the right way.
-First of all, let's put on the table the original concept, which was a thrown weapon guy who created his own weapons, kind of a Ghosts'n'Goblins idea.
-Suppose I want to use a feat regarding throwing Weapons. Since the mind bolt is not a throwing Weapons (e.g. Startoss Style), that would require me to take the Emulate Ranged Weapon blade skill, or? But if I do, I'm not sure if Weapon Focus: Mindblade will still be valid.
-Since when I made the character I chose to give him a Wisdom of 20, I'm guessing I was planning to use the Focused Offense blade skill, but would that be legit, since ranged attacks don't use Strength for attacking?
Basically, instead of a Soulbolt, I should be playing a Psychic Armory archetype, but at the time of creation I wasn't aware of its existence, so I guess I'll have to deal with what we have. To emulate the Psychic Armory, I'll need to spend a lot of blade skills and feats, but I want to be sure it will work, because if not I'll have to look for another way. Or maybe you could just let me swap the archetype, but this could take me a day or two perhaps.
Thank you!
| Storm Dragon |
Hey, where's everyone from?
I'm in Florida, USA: GMT -5
Same state, but EDT/GMT-4 instead of CDT.
-First of all, let's put on the table the original concept, which was a thrown weapon guy who created his own weapons, kind of a Ghosts'n'Goblins idea.
-Suppose I want to use a feat regarding throwing Weapons. Since the mind bolt is not a throwing Weapons (e.g. Startoss Style), that would require me to take the Emulate Ranged Weapon blade skill, or? But if I do, I'm not sure if Weapon Focus: Mindblade will still be valid.
So, the problem comes in with you being a Soulbolt, not a Soulknife. The Soulbolt makes (explicitly) Projectile weapons, not Thrown ones.
However, emulating a specific weapon would give you that ability, and Weapon Focus (Mindblade) applies no matter WHAT the current form of the Mindblade is.
-Since when I made the character I chose to give him a Wisdom of 20, I'm guessing I was planning to use the Focused Offense blade skill, but would that be legit, since ranged attacks don't use Strength for attacking?
Should still be legit, through transitive property. You're using your Dex in place of your Str already, and are replacing your Str with your Wis. So you are now replacing your Dex (which replaces your Str) with your Wis.
Focused Offense is also not one of the MANY Blade Skills specifically disallowed for Soulbolt.
Basically, instead of a Soulbolt, I should be playing a Psychic Armory archetype, but at the time of creation I wasn't aware of its existence, so I guess I'll have to deal with what we have. To emulate the Psychic Armory, I'll need to spend a lot of blade skills and feats, but I want to be sure it will work, because if not I'll have to look for another way. Or maybe you could just let me swap the archetype, but this could take me a day or two perhaps.
Thank you!
I don't know that archetype, what book is it from?
Regardless, nothing you've mentioned so far seems like it would require a change of archetype. Save that you'll have a 2 Blade Skill investment to even get off the ground (Emulate Ranged Weapon and Focused Offense) which could make the wait to level 3 quite painful.
| Sebastian Crenshaw |
So, the problem comes in with you being a Soulbolt, not a Soulknife. The Soulbolt makes (explicitly) Projectile weapons, not Thrown ones.
Well, it specifically says "ranged weapon", and it seems when I made the character I assumed thrown weapons were ranged weapons.
However, emulating a specific weapon would give you that ability, and Weapon Focus (Mindblade) applies no matter WHAT the current form of the Mindblade is.
You're using your Dex in place of your Str already, and are replacing your Str with your Wis. So you are now replacing your Dex (which replaces your Str) with your Wis.
Focused Offense is also not one of the MANY Blade Skills specifically disallowed for Soulbolt.
So I was not mistaken, thankffully :)
I don't know that archetype, what book is it from?
Regardless, nothing you've mentioned so far seems like it would require a change of archetype. Save that you'll have a 2 Blade Skill investment to even get off the ground (Emulate Ranged Weapon and Focused Offense) which could make the wait to level 3 quite painful.
The archetype appears in Psionics Augmented: Soulknife. Converting to it would be most favourable, since it comes with a series of in-built advantages, but even though it emulates a throwing weapon, it prevents you from taking Emulate Ranged Weapon, so I guess I wouldn't be able to apply Startoss Style.
At the end of the day, applying Startoss Style is super nice for the damage boost, but I don't know if it's going to be worthwhile. My doubts, in any case, are solved and now it's up to me to navigate the labyrinths of choices :)
| Storm Dragon |
Well, it specifically says "ranged weapon", and it seems when I made the character I assumed thrown weapons were ranged weapons.
Thrown weapons are weird in that regard, but the specific text I'm referring to is this:
Regardless of form, the mind bolt has a 19-20 critical threat range, has a maximum range of 10 range increments, and is treated as a projectile.
Projectile ranged weapons are bows, crossbows, firearms, and similar weapons, but not Thrown weapons. It's why a lot of abilities (like Arrow Catching armor) have to specific "projectiles and thrown weapons" or some other wording.
At the end of the day, applying Startoss Style is super nice for the damage boost, but I don't know if it's going to be worthwhile. My doubts, in any case, are solved and now it's up to me to navigate the labyrinths of choices :)
Yup yup! FWIW, Personally while I think Startoss Style is actually quite strong for one of the weapon based Style Feats (most of the rest leave me quite cold), it might be a bit too Feat intensive to be worthwhile for a Soulknife, beside everything else. You'd still want all the normal ranged Feats (Point Blank and Precise Shot, Rapid Shot, etc.) plus the entire Vital Strike line, plus 3 other Feats. Reasonable for a Fighter, doable for a Ranger...iffy for a Soulknife.
| Sebastian Crenshaw |
Why the Vital Strike chain? And which other 3 feats are you referring to? Damn, now I feel as if I've been doing it wrong all my life xD
What I had in my was something like:
Point Blank Shot
Precise Shot
Weapon Focus
Rapid Shot
Startoss Style, etc
Deadly Aim
And others if there's place for them, like Clustered Shots, etc.
| Storm Dragon |
The main draw of Startoss Style is that it lets you Vital Strike on your first attack, and then continue your full attack (albeit on secondary targets). Without that, it's a fairly meh Feat chain, since the whole point is to slam one guy really hard, and then crowd control some mooks whenever you're not committing a pure Full Attack to the boss. The "3 other Feats" is the 3 Startoss Style Feats.
For a Soulknife you might be better off taking the Blade Skills that grant you an AoE (such as Psychokinetic Grenade), as they serve the same purpose but better.
| Sebastian Crenshaw |
Ah, I get it. No, my idea was to use Startoss Style as a pure damage enhancer. I know, three feats, but each is equivalent to a Weapon Specialization, so that nets +6 damage. +6 damage on each attack when you're using Rapid Shot, Manyshot, Haste, etc adds up to thehelluvalot damage. Of course, the fact that you can bounce the attack to secondary targets is nice when you need to move, but sadly in PF full-attack beats almost everything.
After further investigation I've found out that the Psychic Armory is not allowed to form properly called thrown weapons except for Mind Daggers. That would reduce the base damage to 1d4 but allow a potential +6 damage. The archetype would save me some precious feats and blade skills but would never allow me to use Manyshot (whereas the Soulbolt would, through a blade skill). Price to pay. All in all, it seems better.
Of course, that is only a mechanic bend. Fluff and coolness is not affected. I guess, since I haven't even started playing, there's no problem in a small change like this, other than the archetype being not in the d20pfsrd page. I've found a link to it here, though it appears reworked as a base class. I could give access to the original.
| Lila the Black |
So...is Mokhai still with the group? I had Lila traipse ahead to the carriage first to give the GM a chance for Mokhai to bail on the group, if so desired. It'd be nice for the big lug to have penned a brief note to Lila explaining his decision, however. :)
And WB Nayala!
| Iorskan |
I’m sorry. I need to drop out. A combination of a promotion turning up the difficulty at work, along with home buying and kids at home has floored me. My previous game load has just proven to be untenable. It pains me to do this, but it isn’t fair to keep a spot in games wheee I’m not pulling my weight. I truly am sorry.
| Lila the Black |
Sorry--meant to check this yesterday. The castle is on a small island just SW of the Noble District (near the top center of the city map found in the Savage Tide Player's Guide).
| Sebastian Crenshaw |
Dice ahoy!
HP: 1d10 + 2 ⇒ (6) + 2 = 8
With an average of 5+2=7, even only one point above it is a triumph. Let's go level up!
+8 HP
+1 BAB
+1 Ref and Will saves
+7 Skill ranks:
-Acrobatics
-Autohypnosis
-Kn: Psionics
-Perception
-Profession: Sailor
-Stealth
-Swim
+1 New Bladeskill: Focused Offense (May use Wis to hit and dmg while retaining focus)
+200 gp Hoard! Arrrr!
| Lila the Black |
LILA THE BLACK 2ND LEVEL—RONDELERO SWASHBUCKLER--UPDATES
Lila the Black Swashbuckler hit point roll: 1d10 ⇒ 10
BAB +1
Reflex Saves +2
Swashbuckler Features
Deeds (dodging panache, opportune parry and riposte)
Panache (3/3)
Swashbuckler Finesse/Falcata Emphasis
Skill Ranks (7—4 class + 2 Int + 1 skilled): Acrobatics, Diplomacy, Escape Artist, Perform (sing), Sense Motive, Stealth, Swim
Retraining: Feat—Toughness into Weapon Focus (falcata). Cost 100 gp and 5 days.