The Patrician Maker (Inactive)

Game Master Shadowtail24

Gun powder comes to the Disc World with a bang, and then a drawn out murder investigation

Player’s Guide


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Ok, ended up going with the second set of stats afterall. Still need to do equipment but everything else is set.

Background:
Gypsumay is a traditional kind of trolless. She polishes daily, hates dwarves, and looks forward to the day some big strong troll decides to ask her pappy for permission to hit her over the head with a rock; preferably a large enough rock to make all the other female trolls jealous. She comes from a small tribe near Slice where she heard so much about the big city she finally made her way to Ankh-Morpork.

Living in Ankh-Morpork, Gypsumay changed her name from Carnelian because she thought it sounded more exotic. She is for lack of a better term a bumpkin living out the big city dream. She has seen it all in the last two years and tried as much as she could. This has gotten her in to a little spot of trouble. She is into Chrysoprase for a tidy sum of money due to a slab habit she picked up and he wants his money now.

She has been working hard to make money to keep herself from having to throw sheets on at the club. Now that she has been instrumental in the creation of the wondrous new gun powder, known to her as Argrahaoooahug or powder that makes rocks fly far, she will not allow any goohuloog piece of ghuhg with a megaphone take that from her. She is not going to go to Chrysoprase and tell him he isn't getting his money, no that would be unhealthy to say the least.


---Wednesday Night Roster---

Melee:
Orthos – Fionna Handoverhammer: Dwarf Barbarian (Armored Hulk)

Ranged:
RainyDayNinja – Benris Carr: Human Gunslinger (Pistolero)
Havoc Prince – Gypsumay: Troll Gunslinger (Musketeer)

Half-Casters
Tiasar – Raul Ulric: Human (Lycanthrope) Inquisitor
Mdt – Risbeth …. Ovn Hogmede: Human (Dhampir) Alchemist (Chirurgeon/Vivisectionist)
Soldier1st – Tanz the Troll: Troll Magus (Bladebound)

Support
TheCelticCircle – Gnome Rogue (Flyer)


---Reviews---

Gypsumay:

What I like: The spirit of Discworld! The creativity and humor floods your background. It's going to be a fun build too, gunslinger is fun in itself but as a troll it might be even crazier.

What I'm interested in see: Beyond a troll with a musket? It's going to be interesting seeing the somewhat reformed country bumpkin who is also desperate in her need. I also just realized we have 3 quests in common as you are also Saladraxis and were Marcus in the promising quest that never was. So that's what I'm also interested in seeing.

Changes: Nothing at the moment, maybe something when the build is finished.


@TheCelticCircle

I have updated the Flyer Archetype in the Player's Guide. I will review it a time or two to make sure it's balanced but you can use it you create your character's build now.


Shouldn't a Gnome be able to use a bat for a mount as well? They do come in sizes large enough to be ridden (although granted PF hasn't bothered to put in a small bat yet, just tiny, diminuitive and Large). But the stats for a tiny bat familiar with the large template would work.


hp rolls 2d10 ⇒ (4, 4) = 8


Shadowtail24 wrote:

@TheCelticCircle

I have updated the Flyer Archetype in the Player's Guide. I will review it a time or two to make sure it's balanced but you can use it you create your character's build now.

Thansk, going to try the built with really low strenght and see what it does when I enter all the number. If it really seems to weak, I will take the point built.

The only thing that worries me about str 1 is that if the character becomes fatigued, he won't be able to move (although, a belf of strenght should fix that).


What should worry you is Str Drains and Str Damage.

Even the weakest of poisons that hits strength, or a single str damage spell, will render you unconscious or dead.

And anything that only gives a save for half damage pretty much knocks you completely out with only a 1 in a stat.


Yeah, I just would find it really amusing to have a character with that. Also, wouldn't it truly depends on whether Trop' PigeonSlayer stays really far from melee or not?


Not with a ranged spell, or a flying swarm. But yeah, if he stays out of combat completely he might be ok. But a ranged spell...


Yeah, I shall bow to such wisdom (a bit disappointed, but I shall survive)


He'll still have a low str no matter what, I just wouldn't make him easy to kill with one hit even at higher levels.


Gypsumay has equipment based on using the craft rules on gunsmith. I think she is all ready to face the world. Also how much does helmutt mit fan cost?


250 gold for the helmut fan


You might also want to consider keeping a few liquid ice alchemical items on you as well, as you can dribble it out a few drops at a time to cool your head off as well. :)

Risbeth can make them at cost, if she makes the cut, once the game starts.


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So I'm still working out my concept and the mechanics, but I'm thinking of a Human Rogue that belongs to the Guild of Copy Writers. He has been rather successful up till this point because of his knack for getting people to believe what he says and claims. And life only seems to be getting easier now that he has the help of a Nac Mac Feegle, because the world knows that you should always read the fine print, and few can produce finer print then a Nac Mac Feegle.


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Ladies and gentlemen, mystery solved; Captain Fremont propagated the leak.

In seriousness though, it's a good initial concept.


I thought it would fit the situation well and should be a fun character to play. I kind of want to model him after Moist Von Lipwig, one of the most distinguished conmen of the disc.

However, I'm working on doing some homework for the role and it has brought a few questions to my mind.

While I greatly enjoyed reading Wee Free Men, I'm currently perusing the Discworld Wiki for further information on a matter of different subjects. One of them would happen to be the Nac Mac Feegle. Within the article on them, it refers to them weilding swords that glow blue in the presence of lawyers.

  • Would it be possible for my little sidekick to have such a sword?

Otherwise, I am looking forward to using the gnome flyer archetype with him. Not only will he be capable of producing masterful copies for me, but he'll be able to deliver them as well. Truly a sidekick worth having around in the beautiful partnership they have begun. Not only does he cut down on the workload, but he makes the deliveries as well, keeping my PC out of the line of fire.

Now in terms of actual mechanics, I have to ask the following:

  • How do we determine the stats for our cohorts? Same process of rolls? Strict Point Buy?
  • Would you accept Profession (Scribe) as a suitable alternative skill for making forgeries as opposed to linguistics?


I made mine using elite NPC array. If we were supposed to use a different way, I'll need to adjust Igorina Blood right accordingly.


You can use a single rolled set of 4d6 or you can use heroic npc stats: 15,14,13,12,10,8. You can roll first and then choose.

Of course that sword will exist! Add the price of a level 1, cl 5 spell casting fee and you should be set. The weapon does not have to be masterwork.

Profession scribe is acceptable for forging documents in languages you know. Anything beyond that would require Linguistics.


I have to say that, I'm going to be highly amused if I roll better stats for him then I did for myself...

4d6 ⇒ (4, 4, 6, 6) = 20 = 16
4d6 ⇒ (2, 6, 1, 1) = 10 = 9
4d6 ⇒ (3, 4, 5, 5) = 17 = 14
4d6 ⇒ (5, 5, 4, 6) = 20 = 16
4d6 ⇒ (5, 2, 1, 4) = 12 = 11
4d6 ⇒ (5, 2, 4, 5) = 16 = 14

...speaking of those stats. Not too shabby for a Nac Mac Feegle.

PC's Stats

Strength: 10 = 10
Dexterity: 14 = 14
Constitution: 13 = 13
Intelligence: 13 = 13
Wisdom: 10 = 10
Charisma: 16 + 2 = 18

Nac Mac Feegle Stats

Strength: 9 - 4 = 5
Dexterity: 16 + 2 = 18
Constitution: 14 + 2 = 16
Intelligence: 14 = 14
Wisdom: 16 + 2 = 18
Charisma: 11 = 11

And cool, I look forward to seeing what type of shenanigans these two get into.


Those are better than several of the PCs. You have a prodigy on your hands.


Stat: 4d6 ⇒ (2, 1, 4, 1) = 8 7
Stat: 4d6 ⇒ (6, 5, 3, 3) = 17 14
Stat: 4d6 ⇒ (4, 2, 3, 5) = 14 12
Stat: 4d6 ⇒ (6, 2, 6, 4) = 18 16
Stat: 4d6 ⇒ (2, 3, 3, 3) = 11 9
Stat: 4d6 ⇒ (5, 3, 6, 6) = 20 17

So...

17,16,14,12,9,7
vs
15,14,13,12,10,8

That's a hard decision...


Ok, went with the rolled stats. Igorina isn't a soldier, she's a doctor & scientist, so she needs mental stats, not physical stats.


Rereading the rules on flanking, I realized that it is only possible for creatures larger than tiny (so impossible for my assassin, unless someone else is doing the flanking). So, I am trying to find other ways, but it's not looking good. I would still feel like playing him even though he would be pretty much useless in battle. However, knowing that you like strong characters.... welll, maybe I should change concept?


Maybe I could suggest something?

Have you considered making him a combat rider instead of flyer?

Consider this, rather than him flanking, his mount flanks. Rather than him firing a tiny pistol, he is the crew loading and firing the cannons strapped to his mount's sides.

So, a riding dog for example (a small one, not a medium one), with muskets strapped to his flanks, used as mobile artillary. Or a rotating gearwork turret for a saddle, with a pair of break open pistols that the gnome reloads and fires.


Right! I feel really dumb, I had assumed that the bird companion was tiny not small!!! So, it is possible to flank!

Although, I won't consider the bird a "ship", Trop will use him to get flanking. That should work, right?

As for the dog suggestion mdt, it's an interesting idea, but it would get my character too far from the original idea: a pigeon/rat slayer. A dog would be a bit too big (I feel).


I'm not sure what you are referring to with combat rider, mdt?


Just saying that rather than riding a flying mount, ride a legged mount like dog or something.

As to a dog being to big, may I point out the Corgi to you?


Ok, wasn't sure if you mean an archetype.

Why would you ride when you can fly! Also, birds of small size or above would provide flanking.


Yep,
But I was suggesting a small riding dog for something like this or this or this or this, which would be hard to do with a bird. :) Then the gnome could be the gunner reloading the cannon's strapped to the side of the dog. :) Gnomish Artillery, HO!


Hilarious images, but I will stay clear from that (I find it kinda disturbing)


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To quote Tanz the Troll, "no, dog twitch much: need artillery tortoise"


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BLASTOISE! I CHOOSE YOU!


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This


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LOL


Tortoise: hilarious!

Is it possible to climb on people and get sneak attacks while on them?


I think kobold book has something for that.


Potentially, note the text under sneak attack in the players guide. I am considering the changing it to make sneak attacks available for enemies less than two sizes larger.


Take small but deadly and remove str penalty to DMG, two weapon fight and take two weaponfeint. Stab stab stab.


Gnome Flyers gain an ability that's similar to small but deadly at level 5.


Ok, now you've got me thinking of discworldian things. :(

I'm bored. :( If anyone needs/wants some help 'discifying' they're background, let me know. :)

Or if you need help finding character portraits, I'm fairly good at that.


Feel free to dissect my background. It's fairly serious for a discworld setting right now.


Wow, yeah, that's uhm, pretty heavy for a discworld character.

I'll see what I can come up with without changing anything major.


Ok, I sent you something. Not a lot I can do with that background without making some fundamental changes to your prose. But it's a bit more discworldian, at the least, there's the classic overcommentary scattered throughout.


Really sorry if I am slowing down the pace so much. I am working as much as possible on that between my work time, it's just that creating character always takes me lots of time.

If it's to much, DM, you can skip me for the first group, I could wait for the second one.

Just saying.


You have 4 more days at least, TCC, so I think you're ok.


No worries at all, I'm giving everyone until Monday. I have a few others I'm waiting on too, and then I can determine the appropriate party dynamics.


I'll lay odds that Risbeth and Raul Ulric end up in the same party if both are accepted. :) Just because of the interparty conflict. :)


As long as you have a black band on he'll only give you dirty looks...and pull your chair out from under you...and not warn you if he's on guard duty and something shows up...

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